NIKON PROSTAFF - 480 CLICKS OF CAN-DO!
 

Page 2 of 2 < 1 2
Topic Options
#386928 - 12/11/04 Re: mauser
nononsense Offline
Campfire Regular

Registered: 04/25/02
Posts: 568
Chris,

There isn't much more that I can help with unless you have more and better photographs of the additional numbers and proof marks. What you would be looking for are maybe the letters B, U, G, N with crowns over the tops of each and the serial number. These were used between 1924 and 1934 with some carrying on through the later years.
B = rifle proofed in assembled form.
U = final inspection proof.
G = sporting firearm with rifled barrel.
N = indicates Nitro proofing. (from 1933-1939) Also used on military contract rifles for export.

Non-exported receivers had a serial number on the left side of the receiver above the stock line. Exported receivers had the serial number on the bottom of the receiver so that the maker could assign their number to the side.

The caliber could have been placed on the left side of the barrel or underneath on the barrel. Along with this number underneath was the caliber markings: land and groove size (mm) as well as the twist rate (mm) and possibly even the steel maker's name.

The ballistics established by the Mauser factory for the 6.5x68S was:

Spitzer bullet weight 127 gr.
3,130 FPS. at the muzzle.
2,795 Ft/lbs. at the muzzle.
56,000 PSI. chamber pressure.

If you want to get a thorough grounding in Mausers, I would suggest buying the Ludwig Olson book and the Jon Speed book on Mauser sporting rifles.

I don't recommend tapping the rifle anywhere on it as it will ruin the potential value. As has been pointed out, the stock is not suitable for scope mounts, anyway. It was done but the cheek weld was non-existent.

If you can take the rifle outside and photograph the numbers and proof marks, I might be able to help more. If not, I think that this is the best that I can do.

Best of luck with a wonderful rifle!


Edited by nononsense (12/11/04)

Top
RV 728 BP
#386929 - 12/12/04 Re: mauser
ctw Offline
Campfire Guide

Registered: 04/18/02
Posts: 3106
hi 2mp
wondering where you found info on edgar? looking to investigate further. thanks chris

Top
#386930 - 12/12/04 Re: mauser
Michael_Petrov Offline
Member

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 68
Chris, the reference was from ‘Old German Target Arms’ Alte Scheibenwaffen by Thompson et.al. You have the complete listing, this information was gathered from old phone books and city directories. I have a good selection of books on German gunmakers and none list anything on Keiss. You can write the gunmakers museum in Suhl, but they know little about the makers of Suhl. Suhl is a town that for a few hundred years has been in the arms making business, but sadly not much has been written about the small makers, of which there were many.


Edited by 2mp (12/12/04)
_________________________
Michael Petrov / Alaska

Top
#386931 - 12/12/04 Re: mauser
ctw Offline
Campfire Guide

Registered: 04/18/02
Posts: 3106
hi nononsense
well i took the rifle down again to try and get picts. the resolution i can post here does not show them so i will describe the best i can. edgar kiess suhl and caliber is stampted. the serrial #. beside that 87. the eagle with an n under it below that the eagle witha J under it below that 840 (wich acourding to 2mp should mean august 1940) below that an upside down heart with some lines in it. beside them are two fancy r's inside of a simple scroll. on the receiver ring right side anothe eagle with no letters under it right side serial # under the bolt handle inside the tight curve another plain eagle. no crowns i can see. hopefully this will help. if you would like me to send some better picts of the markings please email me at mmw@gtlakes.com thanks chris

Top
#386932 - 12/12/04 Re: mauser
ctw Offline
Campfire Guide

Registered: 04/18/02
Posts: 3106
thanks i found a 840 if it means the same augest 1940?
thanks again chris

Top
#386933 - 12/13/04 Re: mauser
Turp Offline
Member

Registered: 12/12/04
Posts: 124
All: Krupp laufstahl is not coarse steel but means barrel steel. Lauf is the German word for barrel. The latch on the side is a Greener side safety - common on drillings and combination guns but uncommon on bolt action rifles.

The African model that Speed refers to is an original Mauser factory sporting rifle model. The original Mauser African Model is very rare. Your rifle, on the other hand, was built by an individual gunmaker and is perhaps even rarer than the Mauser offering but will not command anywhere near the price that a Mauser African Model would command. Still, it is a very nice piece that should be quite desirable among Mauser buffs.

The rifle appears to be a wonderful example of a pre-war product of a fine custom maker in Germany.

Tom

Top
#386934 - 12/13/04 Re: mauser
Michael_Petrov Offline
Member

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 68
Quote:

thanks i found a 840 if it means the same augest 1940?
thanks again chris


Yes!
_________________________
Michael Petrov / Alaska

Top
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2

Moderator:  RickBin, SYSOP 
RV 180 2
CLICK HERE for HUGE SUMMER DAYS SAVINGS on ZEISS OPTICS at CAMERA LAND!
RV 160 1 2
CLICK HERE for a $300 PERFORMANCE REWARD on the IMPROVED LEICA HD-B RANGEFINDING BINOCULARS!
RV 160 2 2
CLICK HERE for GREAT SAVINGS on SUPERB TAMRON LENSES from CAMERA LAND!
Who's Online
540 registered (257heaven, 1Deernut, 224th, 17_wizzer, 1lessdog, 60 invisible), 1152 Guests and 345 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
RV 160 3 2
Forum Stats
53,286 Registered Members
72 Forums
687,824 Topics
9,935,616 Posts

Most users ever online: 4,830 @ 12/02/14










Copyright © 2000-2015 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.