Me: Hi. I want to use them on elk from a 338 Win mag. I am getting 3050 fps with them. Are they stout enough for elk and moose? Thank you!
Rich: I think so if you aren't shooting them at the muzzle. I don't think you will be taking shoulder shots so this little hummer will "get 'er dun" especially with shot placement in the chest area. So yes, good shot placement will give excellent results on both animals. Good luck and don't forget your camera, we like pictures and you might end up on our web site. Rich
Me: ok I will try it. Hope it is not too soft.....
Rich: I don't think it will be too soft. Keep me up to date. I'm very interested in your findings but I have been here a long time and I haven't seen any problems with the 215s. Rich
I asked about minimum velocity to open. Answer I got was it was designed as a bullet for 338 WM and if used in a 338-06 or 338 Fed the muzzle velocities should be kept high (for them). Didn't really answer my question about minimum velocity to open.
Took the 215 grainers down to the range today and worked through some loads starting at 73 Grains of RL19. First five shots down the range created a beautiful little bug hole. That was the sweet spot and as I went up in charge the groups got less inspired.
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Experience is something you get, just after you needed it.
I have no idea yet, but suspect that they were ample good enough before the whole bonded bullet and big magnum craze came into vogue. I wouldn't like to be an elk or deer on the wrong side of them.
I reckon the best way to test will be to see how they actually go. Better organise a hunt
Experience is something you get, just after you needed it.
phonebook season is coming up in a month or two. While it may not prove any sort of game worthiness, it does give you a cheap medium with which to compare bullets. I was able to pick up several hundred last June after they were distributed and the post offices still had huge stack lying around.
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I always seemed to hear the 215 was somewhat frangible. I bought some to try in my 340 wby but wasn't too concerned when they didn't shoot cause I thought it wouldn't be tough enough.
SO...when the above post said the jacket was really thick on a 215 I had to go tinker with one. I don't have a high speed cutter....my hacksaw didn't do to good either. I held it against my bench grinder grinding from the tip down. WOW...at the tip it's like an x bullet with a thin shaft of lead in it. Down at the ogive I'd say the jacket is in the .050-.060" range. Thats REALLY thick compared to alot of bullets I've done this to. If I remember right most cup and core are usually about .030-.040. Of course we don't know about the toughness of the jacket from brand to brand but this sucker held it's own against the grinding wheel. From what I just saw I'd say it's plenty tough for big game...guess I'll have to try harder on that 340 roy.
Thanks for the Report Kraky...
that is contrary to what I have 'heard' so I've avoided them...I'll have to pick up some to use in the old 338/06...
of course I have been a fan of Hornady's 200, 225 and 250 Grainers ( especially the Round Nose) for years now..
at 250 yds or less, a 250 grain RN leaving the Muzzle at 2650 fps, sure packs a lot of wallop when it hits...
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Have shot 215 sierra gameking BT for years at mule deer and whitetail.Sorry no elk. Did shoot big CO. muley a few years ago from one end to other ,perfect mushroom. Very accurate out of my abolt 338.
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