Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns 25ACP or 3.5" folding knife?

I, too, know of, or have seen more than a few people shot and killed with the .25 ACP, including cops. I've also met a few that had the little .25 bullets deflect off of their skulls and one guy that had one deflect off of his jaw during a robbery. BTW, it knocked him down. So it can work.
I look at a good knife as a general purpose tool that can do many jobs. I carry a 3 5/8ths inch folding Benchmade. Under the right conditions and used properly, they can make a very effective weapon.
BTW, I saw more cops accidently shoot themselves with a .25 auto than with anything else. The popular gun was the Beretta pistol with an outside hammer. Strike the the back of the hammer, say while brushing down the uniform pants, and you now have a bullet hole through your boot and your foot. Something to keep in mind.
It, the .25 auto's only attribute is, in the very small Browning auto, very easy to drop in the front pants pocket and not show while so carried. But that's it in my book. All of the small guns, even the .380's and the 2 inch .38/.357's are not worth much if you really need one. Again, just my opinion after seeing more than a few in action. If you need to carry a gun, carry a solid, full sized gun. Make sure it doesn't show and learn how to carry it comfortably enough to live with it. Or leave it home. E

what do you think of those nyclad soft lead hollow points in a 38?

That's simple. Carry the one you can use most proficiently.

I have a permit to carry a concealed hand gun, don't think it extends to permit a concealed knife?

But I understand your point, that little 25 ACP doesn't inspire much confidence (and I own two of them).

I'll take the pistol, I can be moving away from danger and still use it.

And there are some around here that would consider a knife fight as good sport. The appearance of a firearm of any sort tends to take the fun out of it.

Besides, I'd suck at knife fighting.

Not familar with them. Suggest you test them on 1-2.5 gallon water jugs and see what you think. E

You will not get much room with a 25 ACP. A 22 LR would be a beeter choice for sure and certain

Two incidents involving 25ACP in Calgary. A pimp was disposing of a his hooker. He grabbed her by the hair, put the muzzle against her head and emptied his gun. She survived, and all the bullets were found under the scalp on the other side of her head. The bullets travelled under the scalp. The other incident involved a arguement between estranged/divorced spouses. The husband was leaving the house through the garage, when the wife called out to him. He turned around and she emtied the gun into his chest. He survived.

My conclusion is that the 25ACP is better than nothing, but how much better?

That is sickening.
I hope they fried the little POS!

Still take the .25 over a knife, but against a knife I would rather have an ASP baton than another knife! But a gun is always preferable, even a .25 IMHO.

I have had some limited training with a baton (I am issued a Monadlock Autolock http://batons.com/autolock.html). The trainers really pump up your confidence in your capabilities with the batons.

I started out with a Hickory baton, transitiond to the Monadlock PR-24 (which I still have) then to the ASP (which I also still have). I can do some SERIOUS damage with any of them as well as use them for submission/compliance purposes. They are all three VERY efficacious tools for less than lethal force and outstanding performers against knives, clubs and the like.

I don't want to get in a knife fight, it was drilled into us that if you did you WERE gonna get cut.

'Course now that I am old and decrepit I would just shoot the scumbag and be done with it! I am way too old to get down in the mud, the blood & beer.

Gun Fighting Rules:
#1 Bring a gun!
#2 Refer to rule #1 above

Agreed on the batons. BTW, they are considered "billy clubs" and are a felony to possess here in good, old Kalifornia.
By law, they are capable of inflicting great bodily harm, so they can be considered deadly weapons legally.
However, if you don't modify them, a spare axe handle is legal here and can be carried w/o legal problems. As long as you don't add a thumb loop to them, etc. E

Small, 2 inch class .22's haven't impressed me any more than the .25's for fighting. But they kill from lead poisoning much more often. E

Definately not recomending a 22, just pointing out the inferiority of the 25 ACP. The 22 LR penetrates farther in my experience YMMV

No personal experience with the 25 ACP or 22 LR in self defense, but I think I would run a 22 LR with Stingers before I would a 25 ACP.
Just my 2 cents.

Carry both.

JD338