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I have two buddies with the F/TR models both shoot amazingly well. I have seen both shoot 1/4 MOA at 800 yards for 3 shots. One of the guys usually gets some fake wood at all of our local matches and he is shooting against several customs. He is a newbie shooter to boot.

What does 1/4 MOA = to at 800 yards? Is that 2 inches? If so, that's some unbelievable shooting.

just a SCH over 2"

I have read quite a bit about these accurate, ugly rifles. S'pose those boys just pick one off the rack and it shoots that way? I would expect they pick between how ever many they need to find the one's that shoot to that standard.

Weatherby does that and stamps "SUB MOA" on the floor plate and charges a few hundred more for the rifle.

Exactly, and in my estimation they are worth more if they shoot up to that standard. This might now be a great marketing move for Savage to do the same.

Well DUH... it would help to deal with the same rifle... or would you compare a skinny tubed SPS Rem to one of their 40x versions ... duh is an understatement...

A 20" Bull Barrel is pretty damn close. Close enough to make a comparison of the same cartridge.

Actually no it isn't. The barrel contours are different, the trigger is different (the Target Accutrigger adjusts down much lower than the standard) and the F-class and Palma Savage barrels are much longer--in some cases 8"-10" longer depending on the rifle which with the 308 allows for increases in velocity that allow that cartridge to retain accuracy past 800 yards.

It sounds like you got a lemon. A sample of one. That has nothing to do with the Savage F-Class rifles that Team Savage are using which, if you check out the interviews guys from Team Savage have done online, are using factory barrels.

Yep.

Yes about 2 inches from a factory rifle shooting factory fodder. Actually 1/4 MOA at 800 is not much more difficult than 1/4 MOA at 100 yards.

I think the real issue here is the pain these Savage rifles are inflicting on guys that have invested thousands of dollars in a rifle that won't shoot any better than a $500 Savage. Ken

The Savage target rifles run about $1,000 and Team Savage runs handloads for competition; still, $1,000 won't even buy a low end custom action, let alone a complete rifle with a usable stock. I am seriously considering a Savage Palma rifle, just have to figure out how to fit up a set of Warner sights.

Savage rifles are cheap junk! .... That shoot good. Keep in mind though.Most of the 1000 yard records are not by savage rifles they are from full blown customs with Lawton actions,Stiller etc. and many were shot by kalispell MT. guys!

1000 yard benchrest is a whole different game than Palma or F T/R; any BR event is much more of an equipment race than the 308/223 caliber restricted matches that the Savage rifles have been doing so well at.

I remember quite a few years ago Dave Petzal did an article on Savage's "turnaround" (my words). He went to their factory, did the tour, got himself a .338 etc etc. I love Petzal's writing, and the fact that he's LH. Savage made LH stuff earlier and better than most did. Then they ponied up and did the Accutrigger ... to make a long story short, I have a semi-custom on order that is arriving any day. And their days of being low-priced are over -- and I'm glad for their sakes.

I hope mine shoots this way! It's a 7 WSM LH Weather Warrior, 25" tube, 1 in 9 twist. 180 grain Bergers and 160 grain Accubonds on my bench already ...

And 6.5 x 20 Vortex Viper I've yet to look through.

Hmmmmmm this post has a STICKY ring to it.

Lefty C

His observation was true but irrelevant; F T/R competition is restricted to 308 and 223 which makes the game much more a contest of wind reading than the equipment race that some F-Open matches can be.

Why exactly are they cheap junk? I know they have some inexpensive models but their mid to high priced rifles are far from junk.

My 10FLP is completly factory except for the McMillan Stock and it's had over 2000 jacketed rounds down the barrel (not sure how many cast bullets). It's my favorite bolt action. My Remington 700 SPS (.308 Winchester) has a throat like a giraffe so I'm getting it rebarreled.



Five shots at 100 yards



Four shots at 200 yards (blew one)