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I've never posted much, but have been reading and learning on here since '05.
I do miss EddyBo's posts and I'm sure those of you that knew him personally felt a great loss with his passing.

It was interesting to read about the .270 WSM factory ammo. Dad has an A-Bolt .270 WSM. I'm loading 130 BT's and NP's to 3150 (chronied) with RL22 for him. Could probably squeeze a bit more out of it, but it shoots very well and he'll never know the difference (the deer, coyotes, and groundhogs have yet to complain as well). He bought a box of 150 grain Power Points just to have "some heavies" and, figuring they'd make cheap brass. We shot a few of them and THEY KICKED. Not detached retina kicked, but way harder than a 150 at 3000fps out of an 8lb rifle oughta kick. Way harder than the 130's at 3150.

He probably bought that box back around '06-'07, I'll have to chrony a couple rounds next time I get a chance.

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Some old threads are still enjoyable to read!

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Wow! Revived after 8 years. I long ago traded off the .270 for a custom 7 mag and now shooting another custom .270 WSM. Really like the Wizzum.

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I didn't realize how old it was at first and mostly noticed the huge disparity on the velocities chosen to make the comparisons. The 270 Win velocities jive with what I have seen but most 6.5-284s will push a 140 at 2975 to 3000 with modern powders pretty easy.

270s don't have the appropriate twist rate to use decent bullets.

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I've found that RL-17, 48.8 gr, with a 140 VLD will give a solid 3K fps out of my 26" Krieger, 6.5-284 and shoots sub MOA.

My tightest groups were with Vv N-165, but 2,950 was the top speed and that powder had definite accuracy nodes. RL-17 doesn't seem to have specific accuracy nodes, shoots about the same until 3,100 fps at which time groups open up. Groups open up before pressure signs. I've read when you see pressure signs with RL-17, you WAY over where you need to be... shocked

I'm wondering if RL-17 with its flatter pressure curve, may be less prone to accuracy nodes. N-165 at an accuracy node, groups slightly tighter than RL-17, but RL-17 shoots almost as tight and shoots faster.

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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
I didn't realize how old it was at first and mostly noticed the huge disparity on the velocities chosen to make the comparisons. The 270 Win velocities jive with what I have seen but most 6.5-284s will push a 140 at 2975 to 3000 with modern powders pretty easy.

270s don't have the appropriate twist rate to use decent bullets.

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Agreed. As soon as accuracy starts to diminish just a little the .270 WSM will get a faster twist barrel to stabilize the 170 Bergers... or chambered for 7mm WSM.

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I have used a LOT of R17 in my 6.5-284s. I am only getting about 500 rounds out of a barrel with it. Won't try it in my new 6x47.


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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
I have used a LOT of R17 in my 6.5-284s. I am only getting about 500 rounds out of a barrel with it. Won't try it in my new 6x47.

Are you thinking RL-17 burns barrels faster than other powders?

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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
I have used a LOT of R17 in my 6.5-284s. I am only getting about 500 rounds out of a barrel with it. Won't try it in my new 6x47.


Yipes! Is it getting quite hot? Just wondering. 500 rounds is quite a bit of shooting,but that sounds like pretty short barrel life.


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by dennisinaz
I have used a LOT of R17 in my 6.5-284s. I am only getting about 500 rounds out of a barrel with it. Won't try it in my new 6x47.

Are you thinking RL-17 burns barrels faster than other powders?

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Yes, it is hard on barrels- much harder than H4350, 4831, Retumbo, H1000- I could go on. For a hunter that doesn't shoot more than 40 rounds a year it is wonderful stuff. For a guy who shoots a couple of hundred rounds a year he will be buying barrels.


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by dennisinaz
I have used a LOT of R17 in my 6.5-284s. I am only getting about 500 rounds out of a barrel with it. Won't try it in my new 6x47.

Are you thinking RL-17 burns barrels faster than other powders?

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Yes, it is hard on barrels- much harder than H4350, 4831, Retumbo, H1000- I could go on. For a hunter that doesn't shoot more than 40 rounds a year it is wonderful stuff. For a guy who shoots a couple of hundred rounds a year he will be buying barrels.


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I've never owned a 6.5-284, at least not yet, but 500 rounds sounds like incredibly short barrel life! I used to shoot a .300 Jarret before we had ultra mags, and I got a little over 1000 rounds out of that before it started losing accuracy.

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Well if you get a 6.5 X 284 make sure the brass, dies and reamer are all the same specs. ! Life,s a lot easier when they are the same.

Based on one rifle, about 800 rounds total if that, on its second barrel, first was set back re chambered, 24" new second barrel anything above lo 2800,s with 140 gr bullets I saw pressure. Fussy compared to the 6.5 Creedmoor. Would not build another.


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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by dennisinaz
I have used a LOT of R17 in my 6.5-284s. I am only getting about 500 rounds out of a barrel with it. Won't try it in my new 6x47.

Are you thinking RL-17 burns barrels faster than other powders?

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Yes, it is hard on barrels- much harder than H4350, 4831, Retumbo, H1000- I could go on. For a hunter that doesn't shoot more than 40 rounds a year it is wonderful stuff. For a guy who shoots a couple of hundred rounds a year he will be buying barrels.


Bigstick runs a lot of RL-17... Might explain why he goes through lots of barrels.

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Eddy was the good schitt for sure.

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Yep, another nice read.

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