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The 450/45-70 is capable of some fantastic velocities when loaded with the right powder/bullet combo.A 250 grain Barnes XFN at 2550 fps and a 300 Nosler Partition at 2488 fps both through a 24 inch test barrel.
The old 405 isn't a bad choice either but with the new interest in the 450/45-70 loaded to its potential,Bullet makers like Nosler/Swift A-Frame/North Fork/Barnes/Kodiak/Rhino and Woodleigh building bullets for the new velocities the 450/45-70 is capable of,It makes the old war horse better than ever.

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I'm confused,

I went to Winchester's web page and see no lever actions in 30-06 - and no mention of "Model 95's". Do they still make these things.

Forgive my ignorance, but I'm totally new to the world of lever actions.


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They haven't made the 95 in 06 or 270 for a few years now. The last ones they run were in 405, they had those listed last year, but I didn't see the 1895 on their web page this year either.
There still are some of the 06's floating around NIB, but it takes some serious looking to find them.


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I 'found' my 30-06 at a gun show awhile back. Same show there were two .405s, since then zero. gunsamerica.com usually has a few 1895s in 30-06 and .270 listed.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976584060.htm for $649

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The newest and latest is a 1895 Takedown in 405. Only a 1,000 of them being made. Anybody want one?


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Hey Brian:

The .30-06 has not been made for a number of years, and they are becoming a little tougher to find, but by no means impossible.

The last run they did of the .405s was with case-colored receivers pretty recently. I'm sure you've seen them at the gun shows. Beautiful guns and they can be had still pretty easily on the auction sites (about $1,000). CDNN Investments had them in their catalog until a few months ago.

FYI and to all who are interested: CDNN is unloading their .405 Hornady 300 grain ammo (flat point or round) for 19.99 a box. Get it now!


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I'm thinking I'ld like to give the 35 winchester in a 95 a whirl just for fun. But I like my 405 so much I'ld feel like I was cheating on it if I got another one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Kinda felt the same way myself, but walked past an "oldie" at a gun show & it cried so pitieously I had to bring it home. new 405 hasn't complained a bit sitting next to "grandpa" ( 30/40 mfg. 1902) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


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I've been looking at some different 95's in 30-40 came close to getting one a couple weeks ago, but the guy would'nt send pictures of the "repaired" spot on the stock so I left it go.
We're sort of preparing to go to the Quigley shoot in June and Shorty has been shooting my 405, now I'm starting to worry it might get moved over to her side of the safe. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Might have to get another for me to use as my hunting rifle.


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Lever actions are a recent affliction for me. Seems Winchester heard I was shooting 45-70s in a bolt gun an saw to it that I came across a take down 1886 at the same time I had a few bucks in the account.
Then I got the urge for another big Winchester, the 95. I couldn't find a 405 but did pickup a used 30-06 with the idea of making it into a 375 Whelen. I had the dies and molds already. May still do the conversition but will have to wait til I scout up a third 95.
Then a dirty low life, shooting buddy of mine mentioned that CDNN had the 405 Winchesters available. So of course I had to get one of them. Now I had a rifle and the nearby gunshops had no idea what a 405 Winchester was much less have some ammo.
I lucked into an Ebay auction found some once fired 405 Ammo, bought 500 cases.
I had purchased the 405 as a cast bullet gun. I had not checked to find out that none of the normal bullet mold makers have molds for the 405. So I got Mountain molds to make a 350 grain gas checked, bore riding blunt nosed bullet mold, that has proved very accurate. And have since found a 330 grain NEI mold on Ebay. I had to get a honed out Lyman sizer luber die for .413.
The 350 grain bullet is very accurate with a case full of IMR 3031 or IMR 4895.
Case trimmer pilots can be made from .416 pilots or .429. I chucked a .429 pilot into the power drill and using a file and emory cloth turned the pilot down to .413-.412.
The 30-06 Mod. 95 is a plinker with full charge loads behind a 208 grain cast loads. Again the bullet is a bore riding gas checked mold from Mountain molds. This bullet hitting a 2 liter jug full of water at 100 yards makes a dramatic impact.
Both of Winchester 95s are a whole lot more comfortable shooting off hand, then off the bench.
The buckhorns sights issued with the rifle are not a worth a flip so the 30-06 is wearing a Lyman #66 and the 405 is getting a Redfield reciever sight. While the 405 is getting the Redfield installed a recoil will be installed. Shooting the 405 20 -30 times in an afternoon is just about as much fun as a fella should ever want.
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Jim I don't know what your prefrence in recoil pads is, but I put a Limbsaver #10112 on my 405, it was almost a perfect fit , and required little sanding . After I put that pad on 15 rnds at a time wasn't 5 to many any more.


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I had not researched pads, I hate that, sounds like I'm talking about Kotex, the recoil pad <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
All of the rifles I own that have pads, have the half inch pads that mainly keep the rifle from sliding on the floor.
I prefer the old style 'red' color to the black. I'm not sure why but seems in keeping with the age of the design.
Thanks for the heads up.
Jim


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