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6",..and the Cadet fires a 1" diameter bullet.

VA..

I know what diameter bullet the Cadet fires. I have owned and handloaded for 2 origional Cadets in the last 10 years.

I even cast the heeled bullets for them myself.

I was asking Bristoe about the size of the target dots- not the bullets or the bullet holes.

Thanks for your help, though.

Magnumdood,

If I am reading Bristoe's preceeding post to YOUR version of "help", I think he basically told YOU to piss up a rope.

And BTW , I DID thank VA for "trying" to help...

I just said something sticking up like the Leaning Tower of Pisa is just begging to be damaged. But if you want to disgrace a light, trim little rifle like the one you pictured, you're the one that looks like a fool,not me. In fact, it looks like your rifle is attached to the scope instead of the other way around...

35WN

so the rifle fashon diva doesn't like the little knob that doubles my rifles effective range.

good! laffin'

Your father, I hope, does well on the elk hunt... even if he should have taken matters into his own hands, and wiped them clean of the cull, years ago.

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Now THAT'S funny!!!! So you're telling me that if you didn't have those silly knobs on your scope, that your rifle would have half the range it does. Boy oh boy...the scope companies LOVE people like you!! Do you not know how to estimate holdover using duplex crosshairs? Hmmm....
So let's see... during last years elk season, I killed a bull at a lasered 355 yds. with my 35 Whelen. The rifle wears a 4.75x Weaver. That means that if I'd had a scope with turrets like yours, on my rifle, I could've killed the same bull at 710 yards? WOW!! That's amazing!! A scope that makes a rifle more powerful!!
You should PM John Barsness (Mule Deer) and tell him about your revolutionary discovery! I bet he'd love to write an article for one of the major hunting/shooting publications detailing your discovery!!
35WN

hardly my discovery.

your 35 Whelen/250 NPT would make 710 yards with a ~21 moa adjustment to the "silly knob" and would have 1320+ fpe remaining. not like it would bounce off when you can no longer "estimate holdover using duplex crosshairs".

i used the duplex hold-over for years before i stepped up to LRF/turrets. it works to a point but is very crude. removing your "estimate" from the equation is key.

but, hey, if you'd rather use "estimate" instead of precise input so you can have a pretty rifle in the safe, have at it.

And I still maintain my assertion that your rig looks like your rifle is mounted to your scope. Must be handy to carry a trim (ahem) little rig like that through the brush!
35WN

There are a few things that beg arguing here:
1) I use a 225 gr. TSX at a measured 2660 fps. With a B.C. of .359. (So the bullet was the first bad assumption on your part.)
There's no way on earth I would in a million years attempt a shot at over 700 yds. even if I KNEW I could hit my target. Velocity would be so low, the bullet would not expand. What MV did you use for the 250 gr. NP? Do you know at what velocity the NP in question will cease to expand reliably?
Besides all that, I have a 600 yd. range at my house which I've shot on extensively. (I shoot High Power competitivly) I know first hand what the slightest puff of wind can do to a bullet at these ranges. Fact is, about 30 minutes prior to killing last years bull I watched a much larger bull spar with another bull at a lasered 510 yds. It never entered my mind to attempt that shot because it would have been highly irresponsible. Made for some beautiful snapshots though!
2) You have no idea at what elevation I hunt. (Second incorrect assumption)FYI it's over 10,000 ft. which affects the trajectory and terminal velocity of a bullet greatly.
3) I knew WELL before my bull walked out of the timber how far my bullet dropped in 50 yd. increments out to 400 yds. Th 225 gr. TSX drops about 16" at 350 yds. at 10,000 ft. All I had to do was hold ovre about 6". No estimating...I've shot enough at long range to have a pretty good idea of what 6" at 350 yds. looks like. All I had time to do is range him and make the decision to shoot. If I'd had to twiddle with a elevation knob and count clicks, the bull would've been long gone.
Your post proved my assumption correct: you're one of those armchair, internet ballisticians who thinks foot-pounds of energy kills game. Oh well...to each his own.

And I still maintain my assertion that your rig looks like your rifle is mounted to your scope. Must be handy to carry a trim (ahem) little rig like that through the brush!
35WN

about 6". No estimating