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Good .270 Loads #4648311 11/30/10 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,032 N n8dawg6 OP Campfire Tracker OP n8dawg6 Campfire Tracker N Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,032 This ain't gonna work is it? Ran some searches on here and didn't come up with anything for .270 winchester reloading, and was a little surprised it wasn't a sticky with the 30/06 and .308. Anyway, I've got two loads that I like in the .270, both using a Hornady 130 g. spirepoint and Remington brass (both geared toward whitetail hunting). First, my full power load is 59.0 g. of H4831. Second, my squib load is 42.0 g. of H4895. Have killed whitetail deer with both. Last was a bang/flop on an 8 pt with the squib load. I'm callin it a squib load cause it seems to have about half the kick and muzzle blast of the full-power load. Dug up an old 3 shot 100 yd target using the squib load: rifle is an old school remington sendero topped w/ a leupold VX-I. So what's everybody else loading in the .270? ive got some H4350 laying around here that I keep meaning to try, just haven't ever done it. Honestly haven't shot anything out of that Sendero that wouldn't group. Uber Demanding Rifle Aficionado

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #4648461 11/30/10 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,909 Time to be someplace else 2 284LUVR Campfire Ranger 284LUVR Campfire Ranger 2 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,909 Time to be someplace else Been bangin' away with my 270 for 50+ years. Ran some 160 Partitions through it a few years ago. DANG !!!! Never to late to learn something new.

Re: Good .270 Loads 284LUVR #4648843 11/30/10 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,208 Ks Ole_270 Campfire Tracker Ole_270 Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,208 Ks Mostly 130 Hornady or 150 Partition over H4831SC or RL-15 for the last 35+ years. Got quite a few 140AB but haven't tried that one on anything but paper yet.

Re: Good .270 Loads Ole_270 #4648903 11/30/10 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,562 Clearfield County, Pa. D Dale K Campfire Tracker Dale K Campfire Tracker D Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,562 Clearfield County, Pa. I've run IMR 4350 with 130 Speer boattails (deer) and 110 Sierras (groundhogs) for years. I'm tired of the chunks of powder in the powder measure so I got a can of Reloder 17 to try. If that doesn't work, the H4350 or the Short Cut 4831 will be next. Dale This space for rent

Re: Good .270 Loads Dale K #4648973 11/30/10 Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 357 T Tony_Soprano Campfire Member Tony_Soprano Campfire Member T Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 357 One rifle likes 56.0gr IMR 4831 with 130gr TSX, Fed match, RWS The other likes 59.0gr H 4831SC with 140gr TSX, Fed match, Norma Both are one holers.

Re: Good .270 Loads Dale K #4648997 11/30/10 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,909 Time to be someplace else 2 284LUVR Campfire Ranger 284LUVR Campfire Ranger 2 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,909 Time to be someplace else Dale K,after many years of using both of the 4350s, I too grew tired of " the chunks ". Try some Ramshot Hunter or Ramshot Magnum.Flows very nice and similar to its "chunky" brethern in burn rate. I LOVE IMR4350 but I'll never buy it again. http://www.ramshot.com

Re: Good .270 Loads 284LUVR #4649204 11/30/10 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,691 Southern Oregon Blacktail53 Campfire Tracker Blacktail53 Campfire Tracker Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,691 Southern Oregon Mine runs on a diet of 55 grains IMR 4350 and the Horny 130 spire point. Prints tiny little groups and flat kills stuff.... BT53 "Where do they find young men like this?" Reporter Savidge, Iraq Elk, it's what's for dinner....

Re: Good .270 Loads Blacktail53 #4649383 12/01/10 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 798 Washington J JimD Campfire Regular JimD Campfire Regular J Joined: May 2005 Posts: 798 Washington I like Ramshot Hunter and 140 grain Accubonds. It works in several 270s I own. Jim

Re: Good .270 Loads JimD #4649455 12/01/10 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,112 western michigan M michiganroadkill Campfire Tracker michiganroadkill Campfire Tracker M Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,112 western michigan 4350 and 4831 both worked well form me, but RL22 seems to have some magic, especially with 150s. The 130 NP is about as good a deer bullet as is made, JMNO. Tim "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." Albert Einstein At Khe Sanh a sign read "For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the protected never knew".

Re: Good .270 Loads michiganroadkill #4649468 12/01/10 Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,622 Base of the thumb. O old70 Campfire Regular old70 Campfire Regular O Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,622 Base of the thumb. 56.5 gr. IMR 4831 and the Speer 130 gr. Hot core. Shoots cloverleafs out of my old M70. Kills well and holds together. I used 54.5gr. of the same powder with the Speer 150 gr. BTSP a few years back, but the bullet disintegrated on a 15 yds. shot. 4 exit wounds. I used the Win 130 gr. Silvertip over 60 gr. H4831, but there was no expansion on a 110 yd shot.

Re: Good .270 Loads old70 #4649483 12/01/10 Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,272 rifletom Campfire Tracker rifletom Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,272 57.0 H4831sc, 150gr Hornady IL, Win cases and Fed 210 primers is all I use in my .270. Works verrry well.

Re: Good .270 Loads rifletom #4649833 12/01/10 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 302 Maine S spj Campfire Member spj Campfire Member S Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 302 Maine My m70 loves everything. My two go to loads are 140 accubonds with H1000 and 130 TSX's with lots of Magpro.

Re: Good .270 Loads spj #4650833 12/01/10 Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,129 A Ackleyfan Campfire Outfitter Ackleyfan Campfire Outfitter A Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,129 H4831sc and RL22

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #4651499 12/01/10 Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,418 Fairbanks, Ak. Bear_in_Fairbanks Campfire Regular Bear_in_Fairbanks Campfire Regular Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,418 Fairbanks, Ak. + another for Rldr-22. Consistant 1" or less out of my Pre-64 with a 150 Partition. Bear in Fairbanks "Unless you're the lead dog, the scenery never changes." Amazingly, I've lived long enough to see a President who is worse than Carter. And finally, Gun control means using two hands.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #4652187 12/01/10 Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,219 West Slope of Colorado A alpinecrick Campfire Ranger alpinecrick Campfire Ranger A Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,219 West Slope of Colorado Mother and Apple Pie.....H4831 and 150 grainers.... That's why there's no sticky for the 270--it's so easy to load for, even a 280 Rem shooter can load for it!..... oooh boy, I'm in trouble now...... Casey Casey Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.

Re: Good .270 Loads old70 #4652530 12/01/10 Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,197 K keith Campfire Tracker keith Campfire Tracker K Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,197 at the urging of another board member, I tried Mag Pro with the 130g HOrnady Sp flat base. His load and mine ended up being the same, 64.0g of Mag pro= 3115 fps out of a 24" barrel, clover leaf accuracy. Another load we shoot is 58.0g of Win 760 with a 9 1/2 primer with the 110g Sierra Pro hunter and the 110g Barnes tipped tripple shock = 1/2" or less accuracy at 1003375 fps.

Re: Good .270 Loads keith #4652782 12/01/10 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 14,104 Boot Heel of New Mexico mudhen Campfire Outfitter mudhen Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2005 Posts: 14,104 Boot Heel of New Mexico I have five .270s and have had as many as seven or eight at one time. One load that has worked well in all of them is a 130-grain Partition over 59.0 grains of H 4831 in W-W cases with WLR primers. I switched to the same weight of H 4831sc about five years ago and it shoots just as well as the original loads. Ben Some days it takes most of the day for me to do practically nothing...

Re: Good .270 Loads mudhen #4653260 12/01/10 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,304 Durham, CA Higginez Campfire Ranger Higginez Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,304 Durham, CA Here is a great read on .270 WCF loads http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2507470/1 Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again! Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.

Re: Good .270 Loads Higginez #4653762 12/02/10 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,032 N n8dawg6 OP Campfire Tracker OP n8dawg6 Campfire Tracker N Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,032 guess I should have mentioned that I'm using the H4831sc. I don't think I've ever seen the old H4831 for sale, although I had an old can of it back when I first started reloading 15 or so yrs ago. as an aside, I did chronograph the 59.0 g. h4831sc, 130 g. hornady spirepoint load out of a ruger m77 mkII (22" barrel) several years back. I was a little surprised to be getting just over 3000 fps, figured I would need to go to 60.0 g. to get that kind of velocity. But, this was in the middle of the summer, temperature was in the low to mid 90's. I decided at the time that was the explanation. have not chronographed the load out of the sendero's 26 inch tube, but i have to think that it'd be moving a little quicker. Higbean, thanks for the link. Uber Demanding Rifle Aficionado

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #4654706 12/02/10 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,816 Montana Backroads Campfire Regular Backroads Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,816 Montana I have an A-Bolt Hunter with a 22 inch bbl. It really likes 140 grain Hornady BTSP Interlocks over a stout load of IMR-4350.

Re: Good .270 Loads Higginez #4657308 12/03/10 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,342 Finger Lakes NY fishdog52 Campfire Regular fishdog52 Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,342 Finger Lakes NY The string that Higbean refers to is a great discussion. There seems to a tendency to load the 270 Win and 300 Win Mag a little on the timid side. An observation, not a criticism. A 130 grain bullet leaving the muzzle at 2800fps is not all that much less effective, for most hunting situations, than one leaving at 3100fps. Variance in trajectory arguments don't hold much water as there are to many guys happily using 150 and 160 grain bullets in their 270's. With great effectiveness. Both rounds were designed to run at the high end of the pressure spectrum, so most factory rifles in these two calibers are built to handle them as designed. Jack O'Connor had it right. How many years ago? Imagine your grave on a windy winter night. You've been dead for 70 years. It's been 50 since a visitor last paused at your tombstone..... Now explain why you're in a pissy mood today.

Re: Good .270 Loads fishdog52 #4690400 12/11/10 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,194 TAX HELL Allenton Wisconsin I ihookem Campfire Tracker ihookem Campfire Tracker I Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,194 TAX HELL Allenton Wisconsin I use 54 gr of IMR 4350 with a 130 gr. Rem. core-loc. It works for bear and deer very well.I have 5 pounds of IMR 4350 and won't ever buy any more. It sticks too much. But the fruits of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,faithfulness, Gentleness and self control. Against such things there is no law. Galations 5: 22&23

Re: Good .270 Loads ihookem #4691163 12/12/10 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 B BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 I use pretty standard stuff in the 270,mostly H4831 and R22. But a few years back I messed with RL25 and the 130 gr Barnes XLC in a M70 FW. The max listed load of 65 gr gave 3200 fps in a 22" barrel. Laely I have seen that 62 gr 7828 with 130 NPT gives a shade over 3100 from another 22 inch barrel. The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

Re: Good .270 Loads BobinNH #4691166 12/12/10 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,116 West Virginia R RaceTire Campfire Regular RaceTire Campfire Regular R Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,116 West Virginia Bob. I think about the only powder I don't have a pound of is RL25. May have to cure that problem today after looking at your results I have pretty much subscribed to dipping a case in H4831 and just leaving enough room for the bullet (anybodies 130gr ) for 35 years. Just Ultra Bore coated a couple of Douglas barrels. Hope to get out to shoot today after church if it quites raining. Dave

Re: Good .270 Loads RaceTire #4691223 12/12/10 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 B BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 Dave I play here and there with a lot of stuff but if I need to know if a 270 shoots, I reach for H4831 or R22. The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

Re: Good .270 Loads Ole_270 #4692888 12/12/10 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,208 Ks Ole_270 Campfire Tracker Ole_270 Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,208 Ks Originally Posted by Ole_270 Mostly 130 Hornady or 150 Partition over H4831SC or RL-15 for the last 35+ years. Got quite a few 140AB but haven't tried that one on anything but paper yet. Just happened to look over the thread and saw this, jeez, gettin old I guess. Supposed to be H4831SC and RL-22

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #9959088 05/31/15 Joined: May 2007 Posts: 2,225 southeastern, ky j2dogs Campfire Regular j2dogs Campfire Regular Joined: May 2007 Posts: 2,225 southeastern, ky RL 22 and 130 gr. Horn. GMX. shoots tiny little groups at about 3100 fps, with a BC of .460 shoots pretty flat.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #10965986 02/16/16 Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 189 Saskatchewan, Canada L lagerboy Campfire Member lagerboy Campfire Member L Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 189 Saskatchewan, Canada I shoot H4831SC and 140gr Hornady BTSP of SST. Chrono'd 2960 and both shoot crazy good. Great ballistics when you wanna reach out but perform well up close. Use this for our big deer here in Ssak with zero complaints. I think it be the best all round bullet weight for this cartridge. Cheers

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #10965998 02/16/16 Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 30,949 Colorado A antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 30,949 Colorado H4831, Pick a bullet of 130 to 150 grain. Work up to max. Go kill stuff. You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it. You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #10966079 02/16/16 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,017 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,017 Battle Born Originally Posted by n8dawg6 This ain't gonna work is it? Ran some searches on here and didn't come up with anything for .270 winchester reloading, and was a little surprised it wasn't a sticky with the 30/06 and .308. Anyway, I've got two loads that I like in the .270, both using a Hornady 130 g. spirepoint and Remington brass (both geared toward whitetail hunting). First, my full power load is 59.0 g. of H4831. Second, my squib load is 42.0 g. of H4895. Have killed whitetail deer with both. Last was a bang/flop on an 8 pt with the squib load. I'm callin it a squib load cause it seems to have about half the kick and muzzle blast of the full-power load. Dug up an old 3 shot 100 yd target using the squib load: rifle is an old school remington sendero topped w/ a leupold VX-I. So what's everybody else loading in the .270? ive got some H4350 laying around here that I keep meaning to try, just haven't ever done it. Honestly haven't shot anything out of that Sendero that wouldn't group. Look under the gay rifle forum listings.... Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: Good .270 Loads bsa1917hunter #10968111 02/17/16 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 B BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 60 RL22-130 NPT; WW brass and Fed215 for 3100 fps. M70 pre 64 FW,23" Krieger tube. In and out shoulder shot. Notice the group. Very accurate The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #10968153 02/17/16 Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,792 Out West G GunTruck50 Campfire Regular GunTruck50 Campfire Regular G Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,792 Out West 58.5gr of Norma MRP with Nosler 150gr Partitions. Winchester cases and Federal 215 primers. About 3000fps in 24" barreled Weatherby Vanguard S2.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #10982483 02/22/16 Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,542 T thumbcocker Campfire Regular thumbcocker Campfire Regular T Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,542 57 grs. of H-4831 and a 150 gr. speer.

Re: Good .270 Loads BobinNH #10982529 02/22/16 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas J jwall Campfire Ranger jwall Campfire Ranger J Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas Originally Posted by BobinNH Lately I have seen that 62 gr 7828 with 130 NPT gives a shade over 3100 from another 22 inch barrel. To follow up on Bob's post on 12-12-2010 I switched to IMR 7828 right after it became available. I've had NO reason/need to change. 3100 with 130s is very achievable. From a different perspective. I've re read this OLD thread from 2010 and NO ONE mentioned this load. 49 grs IMR 4064 - 130 gr bullets--J OC. Vel around 2900 fps. It's very accurate and has moderate recoil. Someone might find it useful for women or 'yutes'. I killed deer with it before discovering Surplus 4831. Yeah, some years back. Jerry jwall- *** 3100 guy*** A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #10982751 02/22/16 Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,963 Wisconsin C CowboyTim Campfire Tracker CowboyTim Campfire Tracker C Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,963 Wisconsin 62gr 7828 and either Speer Grand Slam or Nosler Partition for hunting...although the SSTs will group a touch better... Mauser Rescue Society Founder, President, and Chairman I don't always shoot Mausers, but when I do...I prefer VZ-24s. jdi do píči

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #10982789 02/22/16 Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 392 C CrankEmUp Campfire Member CrankEmUp Campfire Member C Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 392 130 TSX and H4350 - 55gr through my Cooper - Last edited by CrankEmUp; 02/22/16.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #10987896 02/24/16 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,058 Heart of Tennessee, Plateau of... ColdCase1984 Campfire Tracker ColdCase1984 Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,058 Heart of Tennessee, Plateau of... Anybody worked up data with the Nosler 90 grain Bonded Bullet? I've queried Nosler but haven't heard back yet and its no in their online loads. Like to run them in mid-2000s for a mild close-range deer load and fast as possible to nuke our out of control coyote packs. �When in doubt, I whip it out.� Uncle Ted

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #10990861 02/25/16 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,063 Arizona H HaYen Campfire Regular HaYen Campfire Regular H Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,063 Arizona Had a hard time trying to find a sub MOA load for a new to me 270. Almost gave up on the rife in lew of my 6.5x55 and a 280. I was using the data from Hornady for the 130 SST and H414. just couldn't get a tight enough group. The groups all had one thing in common, two rounds would touch with one off forming the three shot triangle. I remember a post where it was recommended to adjust the COAL. After referring to my Nosler manual (still shooting the SST's), I went with a 3.320 COAL. Finally a five shot group that can be covered by quarter. Note: When I ran out of SST's I moved to Nosler BT's most cause of cost) So... 50grs of H414 COAL = 3.320 Nosler BT or Hornady SST's Federal brass Remember, not everyone has a happy ending, so be happy when you can

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #11506722 10/15/16 Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 21 Lismore, Australia longjohn New Member longjohn New Member Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 21 Lismore, Australia I have a Montana ASR in 270W. It likes a 140gn SST with 58.5gn H4831sc. Puts 3 in about 3/4inch at 100 with a cold clean barrel. If it's not walnut and blued steel it's not mine.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #11623887 11/30/16 Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 21 Lismore, Australia longjohn New Member longjohn New Member Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 21 Lismore, Australia My Montana ASR like 58.5grains of 4831sc and a 140gn Hornady SST. Consistently 3/4 inch at 100. Nice and flat too. Can be a little hard on smaller deer though. If it's not walnut and blued steel it's not mine.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #11623888 11/30/16 Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 21 Lismore, Australia longjohn New Member longjohn New Member Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 21 Lismore, Australia Oops, seniors moment, forget I posted that earlier. If it's not walnut and blued steel it's not mine.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #11624009 11/30/16 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,342 Finger Lakes NY fishdog52 Campfire Regular fishdog52 Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,342 Finger Lakes NY JWALL, When I got into reloading 270's, back in the early 70's, 4064 was commonly used by many folks. It was, and is, a pretty effective package. Over several decades of loading several 270's, I have found the caliber pretty easy to get along with. Perhaps out of context: Mule Deer once quoted a friend of his to the effect that a case full on nitrated manure under a good bullet would likely shoot well. Imagine your grave on a windy winter night. You've been dead for 70 years. It's been 50 since a visitor last paused at your tombstone..... Now explain why you're in a pissy mood today.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #11644187 12/08/16 Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,776 South Dakota S stantdm Campfire Regular stantdm Campfire Regular S Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,776 South Dakota I have used 4831, 4350, and RL22. I get the best velocity and accuracy in my rifle with RL22 and a 130gr. SST.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #11655067 12/13/16 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,107 Texas hanco Campfire Savant hanco Campfire Savant Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,107 Texas IMR 4350, federal match primers, 130 Barnes

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #11655569 12/13/16 Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV NVhntr Campfire Outfitter NVhntr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,232 Henderson, NV H4831 and any LR primer with 130 -160 gr bullets. Let's Go Brandon! FJB

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #13214646 10/18/18 Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 192 W. Sac, N. Cal M MarknMaggie Campfire Member MarknMaggie Campfire Member M Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 192 W. Sac, N. Cal Any feedback on the Nosler 150gr, ABLR on paper & game? Is the 1-10" twist fast enough? Berger & Alliant shows RE26 gives the highest velocities w/ the 140 & 150 gr loads. Experience w/ RE26? Thanks, Mark

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #13215448 10/18/18 Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,792 Out West G GunTruck50 Campfire Regular GunTruck50 Campfire Regular G Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,792 Out West I agree RL26 will give the highest velocity with 140gr or 150gr 270 bullets. But I think I get a little accuracy with Norma MRP in the 150gr bullets. With the 140gr bullets my most accurate load is with RL23 at about 3050fps. I can get 3125fps or so with the RL26 and MRP. Superformance also gives about 3050fps with the 140gr bullets.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #13217757 10/19/18 Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 646 SW Idaho TwoEyedJack Campfire Regular TwoEyedJack Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 646 SW Idaho My old Remington loves 130 gr. ballistic tips, 56.1 gr H4350 with OAL of 3.499". This is quite a bit longer than standard, but my rifle has a long throat and luckily the magazine will feed it OK. This gives me more case capacity. If you can't seat out that long, this might be an over load in your rifle. I'm getting .75" or so 3 shot groups. Most times it goes right through a deer, even at 400 yards. This rifle absolutely loved H450. If I would have known it was going out of production I would have bought a bunch. I would regularly get three shots into the threes with that powder.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #13217924 10/19/18 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 633 Wyoming ttpoz Campfire Regular ttpoz Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 633 Wyoming My current favorite load for my old Husky is a 110 gr TTSX over 63.3 gr of Hunter with a CCI 200 in WW cases. I was impressed this spring by a 140 gr Accubond pushed by a heavy dose of IMR4831. It hit a decent boar black bear right in the near shoulder joint at 67 yards. The nose and most of the middle portion of the bullet is gone but the jacket and base are intact. The bear dropped at the shot. The bullet didn't exit but impressed me with its toughness. Another load that I sometimes use out of a bear blind (took a sow a few years ago with it) is a bit odd but very accurate and effective at close range. I use a Woodleigh 180 gr over 53.5 gr of H4831. It chronied 2388fps out of a Rem 700 with a 22" barrel. I'm partial to a 270 so I play with 'em a good bit. ttpoz in silvam ne ligna feras (don't carry logs into the forest)

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #13221447 10/21/18 Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,792 Out West G GunTruck50 Campfire Regular GunTruck50 Campfire Regular G Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,792 Out West Shot my 2 favorite loads with the 270 today. 59.0gr of MRP with 150gr Nosler partition at about 3070fps. Or 58.5gr of RL23 with 140gr Trophy Bonded Tipped at 3050fps. Both loads will be under 1" at a 100yards. maybe less. Probably going to us the RL23 load because it gets below zero in Canada.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #13223225 10/22/18 Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,017 Pennsylvania R Richdeerhunter Campfire Regular Richdeerhunter Campfire Regular R Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,017 Pennsylvania I'm getting good results with a 130 Gr Accubond over 56 gr of IMR 4451. Good 200 yd accuracy in several rifles. I need to chrono it. I'm guessing 3100?

Re: Good .270 Loads MarknMaggie #13225360 10/23/18 Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 775 Frisco, TEXAS B Buzzaw Campfire Regular Buzzaw Campfire Regular B Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 775 Frisco, TEXAS Originally Posted by MarknMaggie Any feedback on the Nosler 150gr, ABLR on paper & game? Is the 1-10" twist fast enough? Berger & Alliant shows RE26 gives the highest velocities w/ the 140 & 150 gr loads. Experience w/ RE26? Thanks, Mark the boys at Krieger Barrels said the 1-10 was gtg with 130's-150's

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #13225710 10/23/18 Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 1,186 Bandera, TX DubThomas Campfire Regular DubThomas Campfire Regular Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 1,186 Bandera, TX My current .270 load is 43.2 grains of IMR 4350/CCI 200 pushing a 140 gr. Hornady BTSP. Rocking along at about 2775 out of my A-bolt. I also have had great groups with 55.0 gr. IMR 4350/CCI 200 and the 130 gr. Speer Grand Slam. The same load can be used for the 130 gr. Sierra BTSP, but I'm not a big Sierra fan. The lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part!

Re: Good .270 Loads DubThomas #13225739 10/23/18 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,817 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,817 Originally Posted by DubThomas My current .270 load is 43.2 grains of IMR 4350/CCI 200 pushing a 140 gr. Hornady BTSP. Rocking along at about 2775 out of my A-bolt. I also have had great groups with 55.0 gr. IMR 4350/CCI 200 and the 130 gr. Speer Grand Slam. The same load can be used for the 130 gr. Sierra BTSP, but I'm not a big Sierra fan. Seems kind of light.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #13226114 10/23/18 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,032 N n8dawg6 OP Campfire Tracker OP n8dawg6 Campfire Tracker N Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,032 how funny that my thread is still alive and kicking. i ended up going up to 60 g h4831sc with 130s. sold the sendero here on the fire. dont even own a .270 now. Uber Demanding Rifle Aficionado

Re: Good .270 Loads mathman #13228948 10/24/18 Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 1,186 Bandera, TX DubThomas Campfire Regular DubThomas Campfire Regular Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 1,186 Bandera, TX Originally Posted by mathman Originally Posted by DubThomas My current .270 load is 43.2 grains of IMR 4350/CCI 200 pushing a 140 gr. Hornady BTSP. Rocking along at about 2775 out of my A-bolt. I also have had great groups with 55.0 gr. IMR 4350/CCI 200 and the 130 gr. Speer Grand Slam. The same load can be used for the 130 gr. Sierra BTSP, but I'm not a big Sierra fan. Seems kind of light. Yeah, your probably right. I tried to recall from memory, but it was probably 52.3 The lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part!

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #13229252 10/24/18 Joined: May 2003 Posts: 23,024 SW Montana V VarmintGuy Campfire Ranger VarmintGuy Campfire Ranger V Joined: May 2003 Posts: 23,024 SW Montana N8dawg6: My Remington 700 Sendero in 270 Winchester just loves the wonderful Nosler 130 grain Ballistic Tip bullets with Federal 210M primers and H4831 SC powder. This Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet is not just amazingly accurate it is wonderfully lethal on Deer and Antelope size game. Some threads (like the superb 270 Winchester cartridge!) are to great to die. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy P.S.: By the way you made a BIG mistake selling that Sendero!

Re: Good .270 Loads GunTruck50 #13982674 07/17/19 Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 154 Coeur D Alene C Cloudrnnr Campfire Member Cloudrnnr Campfire Member C Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 154 Coeur D Alene Originally Posted by GunTruck50 Shot my 2 favorite loads with the 270 today. 59.0gr of MRP with 150gr Nosler partition at about 3070fps. Or 58.5gr of RL23 with 140gr Trophy Bonded Tipped at 3050fps. Both loads will be under 1" at a 100yards. maybe less. Probably going to us the RL23 load because it gets below zero in Canada. I'm curious about this one. Working on a load with the Sierra Tipped GameKings and Reloder 23. Sierra lists a max load of 55.9, but your load is similar to several I have seen with Re 23 and 140s, as well as QL runs that show a max in the high 58 range. Anyone have any experience with this combo? I realize every rifle is different and the need to start low and work up, but this seems like a very large discrepancy. Last edited by Cloudrnnr; 07/17/19.

Re: Good .270 Loads GunTruck50 #14602148 02/24/20 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,678 muygrande1 Campfire Regular muygrande1 Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,678 Hiw many grains in that RL23? 59.5 max in my rifle with 129 lrx. Info hard to find with rl23.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #14608077 02/26/20 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,462 Northern Colorado E elkcountry Campfire Regular elkcountry Campfire Regular E Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,462 Northern Colorado Youngest daughter's Rem. 700 with a 24" barrel loves Rem. brass, WLR primer and 55gr. of IMR-4350 with just about any 129-130 gr. bullet I've tried. Right now I'm loading the 129gr. Barnes LRX as it's the same bullet my 270 Wthby loves. Both rifles boringly shoot that bullet into sub inch groups. I've tried IMR-4831, RL-19, H-4831 and IMR-4064, but the above load is the clear winner. Elk Country "I refuse to waste my common sense on those who have been educated beyond their intelligence" All you need to know about Democrats is they call American citizens "Deplorables" and illegal immigrants "Dreamers"!

Re: Good .270 Loads ihookem #14609461 02/26/20 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,936 Texas kenjs1 Campfire Outfitter kenjs1 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,936 Texas I used Originally Posted by ihookem I use 54 gr of IMR 4350 with a 130 gr. Rem. core-loc. 54.5 was a good load for me with 130 Hornady 140 Sierra gets 52 grains of same or 4451- seemed to shoot the same. Both great. For anything heavier I went to H4831 with pet load being 55.5 for a 150 Hornady. When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of . Confucius

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #14647268 03/09/20 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,330 eastern MT B boatammo Campfire Tracker boatammo Campfire Tracker B Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,330 eastern MT 60 grains H4831, 130 partition. DONE. over 200 big animals over the last 50 years. If a 270 won't shoot that it goes down the road! Deer and elk both. MOLON LABE

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #14658584 03/13/20 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,290 Qld Australia dingo Campfire Regular dingo Campfire Regular Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,290 Qld Australia I use 61gns RL26 and a 140gn Nosler Accubond for 3100fps in my 700CDL .270win. Of all the powders tested during load development RL26 gave the highest velocity followed by RL22 & H1000.

Re: Good .270 Loads dingo #14660144 03/13/20 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,107 Texas hanco Campfire Savant hanco Campfire Savant Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,107 Texas Originally Posted by dingo I use 61gns RL26 and a 140gn Nosler Accubond for 3100fps in my 700CDL .270win. Of all the powders tested during load development RL26 gave the highest velocity followed by RL22 & H1000. That’s a wild looking goat!

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #14660734 03/13/20 Joined: May 2016 Posts: 3,734 Sandy, Utah J Jim_Knight Campfire Tracker Jim_Knight Campfire Tracker J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 3,734 Sandy, Utah My last .270 liked 62/H4831sc/130 Hornady; 60/R26/160 PT; 59/R23/150 NBT.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #14660794 03/13/20 Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 17,773 Wyoming W WyoCoyoteHunter Campfire Ranger WyoCoyoteHunter Campfire Ranger W Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 17,773 Wyoming /thanks need some new info for the .270.. Molon Labe

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #14663686 03/14/20 Joined: Nov 2019 Posts: 333 S Sniggly Campfire Member Sniggly Campfire Member S Joined: Nov 2019 Posts: 333 Howa 1500 270 H4831 @ 56 grains 130gr Nosler BT CCI Large Rifle Primer Remington brass COAL = 3.300 Groups range from: .327 - .470 @ 100yds. *Switching out brass to WC (no other changes) still delivers groups under .750

Re: Good .270 Loads Cloudrnnr #14665949 03/15/20 Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,792 Out West G GunTruck50 Campfire Regular GunTruck50 Campfire Regular G Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,792 Out West I used both those loads in the 3 270, I own They shot very well in all of them. You do have to watch case capacity those loads will not work in Federal cases. Also work up to those loads in your rifle. I have 2 257 Roberts one will take much hotter loads than the other. Try RL26 as it produces good speed with lower pressure.

Re: Good .270 Loads kenjs1 #14670109 03/16/20 Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 18,896 Missouri 1 10gaugemag Campfire Ranger 10gaugemag Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 18,896 Missouri Originally Posted by kenjs1 I used Originally Posted by ihookem I use 54 gr of IMR 4350 with a 130 gr. Rem. core-loc. 54.5 was a good load for me with 130 Hornady 140 Sierra gets 52 grains of same or 4451- seemed to shoot the same. Both great. For anything heavier I went to H4831 with pet load being 55.5 for a 150 Hornady. Is the Sierra a Spitzer or HP? The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #14974930 06/17/20 Joined: May 2016 Posts: 3,734 Sandy, Utah J Jim_Knight Campfire Tracker Jim_Knight Campfire Tracker J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 3,734 Sandy, Utah I found that my Kimber 84L Classic has a tight chamber and a short throat/lead. I started out .050 off the lands with the Barnes 110 TTSX and Hunter ( from my previous work with it in another .270) No good ( 1 1/2 to 1 3/4) so I seated the bullet to the top edge of the first groove ( as many suggest) and 62.5gr Hunter/Nosler cases do 1/2"! I then started the Barnes 129 LRX .070 off the lands, over R16. I could do no better than 1 1/2, even later when I also seated it to the top edge of the first groove. So I left R16 and went to the old Standys, H4350/H4831sc. Bingo! 55.3/H4350/RWS cases BR2 was 1/2", and shot exactly 1" higher than my 110 TTSX, same zero. H4831sc/60.5/RWS cases/BR2 also went into 1/2" and also 1" higher than the 110TTSX and 1/2 inch right. So both work swell! I will chrono them al later on. I go for accuracy first, and then see how fast its going. I'm sure I'm plenty fast, ha.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #14975464 06/17/20 Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 3,150 KTN, AK AKduck Campfire Tracker AKduck Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 3,150 KTN, AK 55.3 grains of RL 17 and a 130 grain fusion gets 3200 FPS out of a Kimber as well as a Fieldcraft. Accuracy is fantastic on both. Yup.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15018263 07/03/20 Joined: May 2020 Posts: 177 G gatekeeper Campfire Member gatekeeper Campfire Member G Joined: May 2020 Posts: 177 57gr RL23 150gr. Ballistic Tip (or Accubond) for 3000fps in a 24" barrel Remington 700 60gr RL23 130gr. Ballistic Tip (or Accubond) for 3225fps in a 24" barrel Remington 700

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15018278 07/03/20 Joined: May 2020 Posts: 177 G gatekeeper Campfire Member gatekeeper Campfire Member G Joined: May 2020 Posts: 177 I had been loading 57gr H4831 with the 150s before I got a chronograph. Until I checked, they were only shooting 2750fps. I also had been using 65gr H4831 with a 160gr bullet in my 7mm Rem Mag, and found it only shooting 2925fps. RL23 has that same rifle and bullet shooting 3100fps now. I've switched all these loads from H4831 over to RL23

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15029864 07/07/20 Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 2,060 W. Montana H Hesp Campfire Regular Hesp Campfire Regular H Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 2,060 W. Montana My rifle is a Win 70 stainless CRF 270 with 24" factory bbl. from the now defunct New Haven , Conn. plant. This load right out of the Barnes manual. Their 24" bbl rifle with Barnes 130gr TSX/TTSX. 59.5 grs of Rel 19 & Federal standard LR primer = 3211 fps. This smoking load was confirmed over my chrono with the same velocity. Sub 1/2" groups in my rifle. I find it out performs far heavier lead core bullets including the partition style. Will take elk cleanly. If deer is what you want then the Barnes 110 gr mono is the way to go.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15030371 07/07/20 Joined: May 2016 Posts: 1,408 South eastern BC. C comerade Campfire Regular comerade Campfire Regular C Joined: May 2016 Posts: 1,408 South eastern BC. Me too, a 50 year .270 wcf user. Tried every combo , In my view 150 N.P's are gold, 160's too. Push them from 2800 to 3000,+ and they work on Bull Elk. Many, many Bull elk. I favor RL 26 these days.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15030554 07/07/20 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,913 Winchester, WY USA M memtb Campfire Outfitter memtb Campfire Outfitter M Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,913 Winchester, WY USA Thanks guys.......this was a “timely” thread! We’ve got my wife’s 270 Win., retired since 1996, and wanted to build a good varmint load. Many years ago I bought 1000 130 grain “blems”....it’s time to start putting them to use! I believe there’s something in this thread that will fill that need! 👍 memtb You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel “I’d like to be a good rifleman…..but, I prefer to be a good hunter”! memtb 2024

Re: Good .270 Loads Cloudrnnr #15034879 07/09/20 Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,792 Out West G GunTruck50 Campfire Regular GunTruck50 Campfire Regular G Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,792 Out West QL shows 3054 FPS at 60,458 PSI with RL23 but I was using 140gr Accubonds Sako A7 with 24" barrel. The 150gr Nosler partition and MRP at 59gr QL shows 3010 FPS at 60,101 PSI Same rifle. Hope this helps.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15035771 07/09/20 Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,701 Dallas, TX Lou_270 Campfire Regular Lou_270 Campfire Regular Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,701 Dallas, TX Anybody try RL-16 with 130 Scirocco? Thinking of giving this combo a try Lou

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15036404 07/09/20 Joined: Oct 2019 Posts: 1,078 B Benbo Campfire Regular Benbo Campfire Regular B Joined: Oct 2019 Posts: 1,078 Straight from loads that work. 140 AB 58.5 h4350 130 Hornady and 62RL22 Both cci match primer and ww brass

Re: Good .270 Loads Benbo #15083524 07/26/20 Joined: May 2020 Posts: 177 G gatekeeper Campfire Member gatekeeper Campfire Member G Joined: May 2020 Posts: 177 Originally Posted by Benbo Straight from loads that work. 140 AB 58.5 h4350 130 Hornady and 62RL22 Both cci match primer and ww brass Are you sure your 140 AB load is H4350? If that from John's article, Handloads that Work, I believe that's a H4831 recipe, using 57gr for 150s, 60gr for 130s and splitting the difference with 140s at 58.5

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15089100 07/28/20 Joined: Mar 2020 Posts: 115 R RCflash Campfire Member RCflash Campfire Member R Joined: Mar 2020 Posts: 115 What worked well in my 50's Model 70 was 130 gr Partitions pushed by 54 g IMR4350.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15092223 07/29/20 Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 275 San Antonio, TX R rabst Campfire Member rabst Campfire Member R Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 275 San Antonio, TX I only own one .270 Win., and it is a finicky biotch! Doesn't help that, only after multiple trips to the range, with multiple factory and hand-loaded recipes, I discovered that it won't shoot anything well without at least four or five fouling rounds through a clean barrel. Having figured that out, I then tried at least a half dozen factory offerings, as well as hand loads with H4831SC, IMR4350, RL-22, IMR7828, IMR4895, and RL-19. Some even showed promise. But, alas, none were consistent. I was just about to kick this rifle down the road when I stumbled upon some VV N-160 and gave it a whirl. It was a winner, @ 55.0 gr behind 130 gr Hornady Interlock SPs (WW brass, Fed 210 primer). Modest velocity for me at that charge (a little over 3000 fps), but very accurate and very consistent. Vihtavuori lists their max at 58.0 gr [for a 130 gr Remington SP], so there is more room to play, but I'm happy with what I've got. So, of course, they aren't all easy to load for.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15095221 07/30/20 Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 833 S scottishkat Campfire Regular scottishkat Campfire Regular S Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 833 I have had great luck with N560 in my 270 Win with 130 or 110 grain H4831SC with 150's is excellent as well. Good luck and shoot straight y'all

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15168614 08/26/20 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,712 MN/ND R rflshtr Campfire Regular rflshtr Campfire Regular R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,712 MN/ND Anybody tried the Hornady 145 grain ELD X bullets with R 26? I have usually shot Partitions in mine with very good results but looking for something different.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15440133 11/21/20 Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,017 Pennsylvania R Richdeerhunter Campfire Regular Richdeerhunter Campfire Regular R Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,017 Pennsylvania I decided to see if I could get 140 gr Hornady BTSP to shoot accurately in my .270 rifles. I found good results in a couple different .270 rifles with 53.5 gr of RL16. I have not yet chronoed it but expect to be close to 3000 fps.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15440324 11/21/20 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,107 Texas hanco Campfire Savant hanco Campfire Savant Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,107 Texas I have a new Sako in 270, got it sighted in. Need to try it on something

Re: Good .270 Loads Richdeerhunter #15453710 11/25/20 Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,017 Pennsylvania R Richdeerhunter Campfire Regular Richdeerhunter Campfire Regular R Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,017 Pennsylvania Originally Posted by Richdeerhunter I decided to see if I could get 140 gr Hornady BTSP to shoot accurately in my .270 rifles. I found good results in a couple different .270 rifles with 53.5 gr of RL16. I have not yet chronoed it but expect to be close to 3000 fps. I chronoed it today in 3 different rifles. Average across 3 rifles was around 3040 fps. All barrels were 22" long.

Re: Good .270 Loads n8dawg6 #15454044 11/25/20 Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,542 T thumbcocker Campfire Regular thumbcocker Campfire Regular T Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,542 I couldn't get 150 grain partitions to shoot well with any powder. I'm going to use 58 grains of 7828 ssc with the only 150 graner my rifle likes. The 150 speer hot cor. I can get decent accuracy with a 130 grain partition, but deer season is saturday, so i will use the speer.