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#4691981 - 12/12/10 04:30 PM Re: Ask John Barsness Questions About "CARTRIDGE EFFICIENCY" [Re: RickBin]
elliesbear Offline
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My intent is not to offend anyone, but a legitimate [to me at least] question. What is the advantage of a fast twist [1in8] 22 centerfire...223, .223AI,etc.? I fully understand it allows one to shoot heavier bullets [longer bearing surface] I certainly enjoy the .22 centerfire [I have and shoot/hunt with, .204, .222, 22-250, 22-250AI] However, I've always shot lighter bullets...typically 36gr, 53gr for coyotes, 53gr TSX,60gr. NPT's for deer or perhaps longer distances. If I want to shoot heavier bullets, i.e., 70 to 80gr. I shoot a 6mm Rem, .25 WSSM [HORRORS] My 6mm is a Ruger #1 and a 26" barrel and will shoot 75gr bullets pretty fast and is accurate enough to hit a coyote @ 400yds if it's not too windy and I manage to do my part. Are the fast twist .22's an economy issue? a recoil issue? a noise issue? Again this is not an argument..maybe I need a fast twist .22 centerfire? Thanks for advice and council. I might add, the very best reason to own/shoot a cartdrige is just because we like it.
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#4835429 - 01/19/11 03:02 AM Re: Ask John Barsness Questions About "CARTRIDGE EFFICIENCY" [Re: elliesbear]
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Loc: Tucson, AZ
The advantage to shooting heavier bullets for a given caliber is a higher ballistic coefficient. This doesn't always equate to a flatter trajectory, as velocity will be reduced, but it seems to help considerably with wind-drift. I also like 22 center fires, particularly the .22 BR, and there is no comparing the wind-drift of a typical 50 grain bullet to that of an 80 grainer fired from it.
Failure's always an option

#4907818 - 02/06/11 08:08 PM Re: Ask John Barsness Questions About "CARTRIDGE EFFICIENCY" [Re: tucsonan]
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Registered: 12/27/10
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Loc: Gator Country, USA

I have a lot of respect for your opinions based on your practical and knowledgeable posts that I've read since joining the campfire. As pertaining to this topic, I've hunted deer most of my life and admittedly, I'm smitten with Whitetail (any deer) hunting. I love the challenge of hunting a mature buck who kicks my azz most of the time. I cut my teeth on 270 wins and 30-06's. In the past 5 years, I've come to enjoy more moderate calibers for deer such as, 6.5x55, 7mm-08, 7x57. Partly, because they're more fun to shoot and I enjoy the challenge "of catching larger fish on reasonable lighter tackle" but also, I want my young son who has the hunting bug to start out with effective calibers that he can handle and learn good shooting technique. Currently, I'm on a 6.5x55, 7mm-08 and 7x57 kick and have a few rifles in each. I'll hunt with them, learn about their effectiveness and ultimately weed a few out to make room for a few other interesting calibers. I'm interested in your opinion on 257 Roberts versus 25-06 (already know about the limited availability of factory ammo for the 257, I currently don't reload but have access) or any other recommendations that you have. Thanks for your time.
"Good judgment comes from experience but unfortunately, experience is often derived from a series of bad judgments"

#4909619 - 02/07/11 03:39 AM Re: Ask John Barsness Questions About "CARTRIDGE EFFICIENCY" [Re: MCT3]
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Thanks for the kind comments.

In my experience, the .257 Roberts is just as effective at killing whitetails as any of the rounds you mention.

"Gunwriters, as you know, aren't as informed as their readers are and if it wasn't for the readers, there would be no need for writers..."--Shrapnel, May 2015

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