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Ok, I have been trying a Lee zip trim and while it's slow it seems to do well if I do my part ( like making sure the case head is installed all the way in the holder,also have had a couple of cases that were less than the trim to length even though I didn't think it was possible with this setup. Overall its probably faster than the RCBs rotary trimmer I've tried.
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"a trim die relies on literal outside forces,to curtail length. Such things will skew concentricity and neck tension,as well as mar projectiles."
Say,... WHAT? I mean, "Lateral outside forces"... "to curtail length" ... "concentricity/tension ... 'mar projectiles" ... Huh? No offense intended but I have no idea of what you said means in any sort of practical application.
"A rotary trimmer does not on the average,"
"Does not on average," ... does not what?
"In fairness,the worst rotary,easily trumps the best trim die."
In what way?
I only have a few trim dies but they do exactly what they are supposed to do and do it quite well.
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All things being equal(which they ain't) a trim die relies on literal outside forces,to curtail length. Such things will skew concentricity and neck tension,as well as mar projectiles.
A rotary trimmer does not on the average,though they are not all equals. In fairness,the worst rotary,easily trumps the best trim die. Do you have any idea of what a trim die is? If you're talking speed of trimming a bunch of cases then a rotary trimmer easily trumps a trim die for routine trimming but it doesn't trump a trim die in any other respect.
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Get one of those possom hollow devices. http://www.possumhollowproducts.com/kwick-case-trimmers.htmlPut it in your drill, tape the trigger down and get after it. Trim dies IME are not time efficient.
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"a trim die relies on literal outside forces,to curtail length. Such things will skew concentricity and neck tension,as well as mar projectiles."
Say,... WHAT? I mean, "Lateral outside forces"... "to curtail length" ... "concentricity/tension ... 'mar projectiles" ... Huh? No offense intended but I have no idea of what you said means in any sort of practical application.
"A rotary trimmer does not on the average,"
"Does not on average," ... does not what?
"In fairness,the worst rotary,easily trumps the best trim die."
In what way?
I only have a few trim dies but they do exactly what they are supposed to do and do it quite well.
You gals need to read slower and shoot more,though I'm digging your accidental humor................
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I guess I'm the odd man out here. I have been reloading since 1964. I have tried and used several rotary trimming tools and hated all of them. They were slow and actually became painful to use when trimming large quantities of rifle brass.
Nowadays I own trim dies in all of the rifle calibers I load. I like them because they function as an instant case length gauge while also ensuring that the case has been properly sized.
Anything that protrudes above the top of the trim die gets a couple swipes with a file, and trimming is done. There is no need to separately measure cases, setup a trimmer, clamp the cases in the shellholder and operate the trimmer.
The trim length is automatically uniform and correct for every caliber with no need to use a caliper to measure case length or set up a trimmer. There are no negative accuracy issues in my experience.
I find the trim dies to be MUCH faster and handier than any other trimmer (or any other method for measuring case length, for that matter) I have either tried or seen, and they are foolproof to use.
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I guess I'm the odd man out here. I have been reloading since 1964. I have tried and used several rotary trimming tools and hated all of them. They were slow and actually became painful to use when trimming large quantities of rifle brass.
Nowadays I own trim dies in all of the rifle calibers I load. I like them because they function as an instant case length gauge while also ensuring that the case has been properly sized.
Anything that protrudes above the top of the trim die gets a couple swipes with a file, and trimming is done. There is no need to separately measure cases, setup a trimmer, clamp the cases in the shellholder and operate the trimmer.
The trim length is automatically uniform and correct for every caliber with no need to use a caliper to measure case length or set up a trimmer. There are no negative accuracy issues in my experience.
I find the trim dies to be MUCH faster and handier than any other trimmer (or any other method for measuring case length, for that matter) I have either tried or seen, and they are foolproof to use.
We have been loading for almost the exact same time, so you are not alone. The Lee Trimmer has the answer to all the problems you list, and is fast and easy to use. I've been so impressed with it, that when it came time to get a trimmer for my 6BR and discovered Lee did not make one, I made my own using a .243 WSSM Lee trimmer.
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Trim tools of any type are just tools. Each can do the job, each is slightly superior (easier to use) for different ways of working. As tools, we can do it all with any one or we can own and use them all as we wish.
I have two hand lathes, several trim dies and several Lee trim tools. I find nothing massively different in the final effect from any of them.
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if you are going to shoot and load a varity of cases in diff. cal. get an rcbs power trimer and 3-way cutter head set up and you will never regret it
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I'll gun some pics tomorrow,if only to spur the oblivious in continuing their cluelessness...................
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