Home Forums Hunting & Shooting General Big Game Huge .264 bullet test Part Deux!

Here's the link to the first test:
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4769172/1

I now present you with Part Deux

The test was perform exactly like the first one to make the results as comparable as possible. The only difference is I don't have my Winchester anymore so I used my Mauser M38.

I'll keep the latest results seperated for now so it's easier to see. After a couple weeks I'll insert the results in the older test so they are all in weight order. Enjoy!


Sierra 85gr HP
Average Penetration (inches): 9.0
Average Weight Retained (grain): 13.6
Average Weight Retained (%): 16
Average Expansion (inches): 0.476



Barnes 120gr TTSX
Average Penetration (inches): 17.2
Average Weight Retained (grain): 119.2
Average Weight Retained (%): 99.3
Average Expansion (inches): 0.547



Swift 120gr A-Frame
Average Penetration (inches): 15.17
Average Weight Retained (grain): 114.53
Average Weight Retained (%): 95.4
Average Expansion (inches): 0.552



Swift 130gr Scirocco II
Average Penetration (inches): 13.3
Average Weight Retained (grain): 124.7
Average Weight Retained (%): 98.2
Average Expansion (inches): 0.685
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0726.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0727.jpg[/img]

Nosler 140gr Accubond
Average Penetration (inches): 14.17
Average Weight Retained (grain): 89.9
Average Weight Retained (%): 64.2
Average Expansion (inches): 0.621
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0724.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0725.jpg[/img]

Sierra 140gr GameKing
Average Penetration (inches): 13
Average Weight Retained (grain): 64.3
Average Weight Retained (%): 46
Average Expansion (inches): 0.467
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0728.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0729.jpg[/img]

Speer 140gr HotCor
Average Penetration (inches): 13.8
Average Weight Retained (grain): 76.6
Average Weight Retained (%): 54.7
Average Expansion (inches): 0.513
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0730.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0731.jpg[/img]

Berger 140gr VLD Hunting
Average Penetration (inches): 12.17
Average Weight Retained (grain): 50.1
Average Weight Retained (%): 36.4
Average Expansion (inches): 0.576
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0732.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0733.jpg[/img]

Military 142gr FMJ
Average Penetration (inches): 14.3
Average Weight Retained (grain): 134.5
Average Weight Retained (%): 94.7
Average Expansion (inches): 0.338
* One veared off course and exited
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0734.jpg[/img]

Woodleigh 160gr Weldcore
Average Penetration (inches): 12.8
Average Weight Retained (grain): 148.9
Average Weight Retained (%): 93.1
Average Expansion (inches): 0.915
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0735.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0736.jpg[/img]

Cast 174 gr (as dropped)
Average Penetration (inches): 24
Average Weight Retained (grain): 122.7
Average Weight Retained (%): 70.5
Average Expansion (inches): 0.360
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0737.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0738.jpg[/img]

Cast 174 gr (water quenched)
Average Penetration (inches): 24+
Average Weight Retained (grain): 128.8
Average Weight Retained (%): 74
Average Expansion (inches): 0.438
*Under estimated their penetration, only recovered one.
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0739.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0740.jpg[/img]

Very nice, Steve.

Any chance we can get velocities, either at the target or at the muzzle, with these numbers? TIA.

Anybody knows howcome I can't get the pics of the Gameking and down to show up??

Same as the first test. The impact velocity was made to duplicate modern 6.5X55 loads and .260 Rem at 100 yds. Cast bullets were approximately 1500fps.

Approximate impact velocity:
85-100gr.............2850-2900fps
120gr..................2750-2800fps
125gr..................2600-2700fps
129-130gr............2550-2600fps
140gr-142.5gr.......2500-2550fps
156-160gr............2400-2500fps
168gr..................2300-2400fps

thanks steve that helps alot

Awesome Steve.

I'll play some more with the pictures tomorrow. Can't figure out why they won't show up, the codes are the same.

Some forum software minimizes the amount of photos that can be attached to a single post.

Thank you for the effort!

I think the software used to run this forum has (or used to have anyway) a maxiumum of 10 pictures per post.

John

Fixed his pics:

Sierra 140gr GameKing
Average Penetration (inches): 13
Average Weight Retained (grain): 64.3
Average Weight Retained (%): 46
Average Expansion (inches): 0.467



Speer 140gr HotCor
Average Penetration (inches): 13.8
Average Weight Retained (grain): 76.6
Average Weight Retained (%): 54.7
Average Expansion (inches): 0.513



Berger 140gr VLD Hunting
Average Penetration (inches): 12.17
Average Weight Retained (grain): 50.1
Average Weight Retained (%): 36.4
Average Expansion (inches): 0.576



Military 142gr FMJ
Average Penetration (inches): 14.3
Average Weight Retained (grain): 134.5
Average Weight Retained (%): 94.7
Average Expansion (inches): 0.338
* One veared off course and exited
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0734.jpg[/img]

Woodleigh 160gr Weldcore
Average Penetration (inches): 12.8
Average Weight Retained (grain): 148.9
Average Weight Retained (%): 93.1
Average Expansion (inches): 0.915
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0735.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/...t/264%20cal%20bullet%20test/IMG_0736.jpg[/img]

Cast 174 gr (as dropped)
Average Penetration (inches): 24
Average Weight Retained (grain): 122.7
Average Weight Retained (%): 70.5
Average Expansion (inches): 0.360



Cast 174 gr (water quenched)
Average Penetration (inches): 24+
Average Weight Retained (grain): 128.8
Average Weight Retained (%): 74
Average Expansion (inches): 0.438
*Under estimated their penetration, only recovered one.

Steve,

As a new owner of a Swede your timing is perfect! Nice work!

Andy

Punching elk shoulders with that 140 VLD does not look like something I'd want to try...

thanks for taking the time to post this.

A very big +1!

Steve thanks for doing this.

I wonder though...what kind of penetration one might get with a Barnes 130 grain TSX at 3470 fps?

I might have to run that test.

Overpenetration? lol

Thanks for fixing the pics. Must be a limit per post as already mentionned.

Thank you vey much, Steve, I reall appreciate your work.
BBerg