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Seriously I wonder why use a 30-30 TODAY instead of a 308 Win. I understand liking LEVER action rifles, light, short, fast handling. There are 308s in LEVER actions & IMHO they are in higher quality guns, some have rotary mags, some clips, & most of the time better accuracy.
I AM NOT TRYING TO START ANY ARGUMENT or BLAZING FLAME!! We have enough of that going on NOW.
If you NEVER cross an open field or pasture, pipeline, powerline, etc. I guess you don't need the flatter trajectory and higher retained vel. & energy of a 308,7-08,243. With a 308 you still have 30 cal. holes.
These are my thoughts & questions. Why 30-30, NOT 308?
Well, you did a good job of it by asking a silly question. Sometimes it's worth asking the question of yourself before punching the enter button, perhaps rephrased: What will a .308 kill that a .30-30 won't?
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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Well, if he hadn't hit the enter button we would never had heard Logcutter's pearls of wisdom!
"You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz
"Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty
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More cheap shots over the public net..
What the hell is wrong with going outside and taking care of buisness..In this case..PM or E-mail..
Those that want to bash me,please do it in person or privately and leave the forum alone.
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Campfire Oracle
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Why, you post PM's? You are a funny victim and I'm not prone to throwing punches with women.
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Winchester Chambered more that 8 million 94 in that cartridge. Marlin would add another 2 or 3 million. It just works. These days almost all of my deer hunting is in the hardwood wood lots of CT. A long shot here would be 50 steps. A 30-30 is plenty cartridge for that purpose and I personally would not think twice about shooting an elk with one. And they are light and well carry one for a week or two before you throw rocks at the window. This year it seemed my old 7 x 57 was needlessly powerful for the task.
"Any idiot can face a crisis,it's the day-to-day living that wears you out."
Anton Chekhov
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Campfire Ranger
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If if works for ones desired objective, then why not?
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I think it is quite unique when a guy ask a question on this forum and it turns into slurr's and garbage talk attacking others..Why..Because they can and get away with it.
Until Stealhead had to do his slam(first one),everyone was talking 30-30 versus .308..Denton and Rocky chimed in then it was over and turned into a slam bam...
And the internet chest thumpers continue rather than taking it off the forum like a man would......
If anyone wants to PM or e-mail me without mentioning my wife as if..Feel free to and it won't hit the pages.....Just be a man and say your piece without attacking my wife instead of me.
Many have and know that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why the 30-30? Well, to begin with, there are millions of hunting rifles so chambered in this country. The combination works. The old adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." is sensible and true. Many guys don't see the need in buying another rifle chambered in a cartridge that is a bit better for shooting at longer distances than the one they already have. While those of us who can be described as rifle loonies willingly accept any reason to buy yet another rifle, many serious hunters don't buy into that mind set. They use what has worked well for them for many years, the classic 30-30 lever gun.
FWIW, I have several 30-30 lever action rifles but don't usually hunt with them. I simply prefer something else. That doesn't make me question another man's choice of rifle or cartridge. ..........The 30-30 has served its purpose well, given its limited capabilities for well over 100+ years. Sure it works, but only up to a point. Times change as well as cartridge development. Given the longer ranged hunting styles of today, the 30-30 won`t be the first choice out of the gun safe for most. It is, what it is. A short to moderate ranged brush and timber cartridge, which is chambered in a handy lever carbine. 30-30 or revolver ia my first choice hunting in the cedar swamp on the back of my property,60 yds. is a long shot.
Its all right to be white!!
Stupidity left unattended will run rampant
Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
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Nostalgia. That's another good reason to shoot a 30-30.
I bought my first brand new 30-30 Win 94 at age 16. The price was $69.95 at the old Giantway store in Alma, MI. I traded it to Jay Poet the following year for $125 at the old Jay's Sporting Goods store in downtown Clare, MI.
Another lever-action rifle chambered in 308 Win was the Sako Finnwolf.
There's my "pearls of wisdom", so to speak. Before whom or "what" they are cast is debateable.
Our God reigns.
Harrumph!!!
I often use quick reply. My posts are not directed toward any specific person unless I mention them by name.
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The .30-30 is more about the platform than the cartridge. Nothing I've tried packs as easily on a horse as a Model 94. The .30-30 shoots flatter than pistol cartridges and packs enough punch for most anything. Earlier this year, I ran into some coyotes and dropped one at 100 yards and the other at 175.
A .30-30 case AI'd and necked down to 6 mm would be an interesting project, but I don't have that much money to waste.
It's all in the reflexes.
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There's my "pearls of wisdom", so to speak. Before whom or "what" they are cast is debateable.
Oink oink  !
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I bought my last Winchester '94 30-30 for one of my sons for graduating High School with a 3.4 and it was $269..Times have changed,money wise, but the 30-30 hasn't.
Do you still have it Dave?
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I assumed you were the wife. You really should stick to what you know, converting oxygen to carbon dioxide.
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Pretty intelligent/grown up answer!!! Jayco
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Vagina! That should have you in convulsions for an hour you silly twat
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The last 30-30 bought into my immediate family? I think I was 10 or so. My dad bought a 'pre-64' Win 94 and a Sthil chainsaw from his father in law (my mother's dad) for 80 bucks total.
Rifle is 98% and the chain saw ran until about 7 years ago. He got his money's worth. Never hunted with that 94 but still occasionally hunt with a Sav M1899 in 30-30 for a giggles.
There really isn't anything I'd shoot with a 308 that I wouldn't with a 30-30, particularly with today's bullet offerings.
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Vagina! That should have you in convulsions for an hour you silly twat How old are you? They have a show on TV called "Bully Beat down" taking loud mouthed vulgar twit's that beat women and children and pair them with a man, to see what they are made of. Put in your app.... Your drunkin replies don't impress me much! Jayco
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Old enough to read sign and recognize a first class POS, though I don't generally talk this way to women, but you are the exception.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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 How long have you personally owned a 30-30? Jayco
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Campfire Oracle
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31 years.
Don't worry, your admission to owning one for 110 years means not a damn thing. You are very much the type of person that had 1 year of experience 110 times. Congratulations on every day being a new day.
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