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longtime lurker and reader; I have used the 06 and the 243 for close to 40 years, I
like the 243 on deer using the right bullets such as partitions and the like. I have
never lost or had to trail one, shots have been between 50 and 300 yards. I had a co-worker who said the 243 was worthless because he had to track every deer he shot with one and had lost several. Upon questioning him about what bullet he used he said the Sierra 85 grain HPBT, I think that said it all.

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recon3117, Your co-worker must be a hell of a shot ?????

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recon3117, Let me clarify my last statement, I don't want to start an argument and take up to much time and space on this forum. I've been shooting a 243 since 1965 and most of that time have been using the 85 grain Sierra HPBT as my go to bullet for both varmints and deer. I can honestly say between between a couple of buddies and I, we have probably taken close to a couple of hundred deer using 85 grain HPBT. So when I read that someone has used it and it has failed completely, I can only conclude that there is more to the story then just bullet failure. If it's not your bullet of choice, by all means don't use it. But no one is ever going to convince this old fella that it's not a good bullet to use for deer hunting. Good hunting and have a Happy New Year, Ben

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Originally Posted by buckhorn1916
Any opinions on whether to use 85 gr, 100 gr, 105 gr.??


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I guess if you place the shot well it doesn't matter but eventually almost everyone gets buck fever and has a bad shot. The last time I used a .243 for deer was in Wyoming. I wounded a deer and while trying to finish it off I hit it in the hind quarter. I eventually caught up to the deer and finished the job but when I was dressing it out I discovered the bullet had only penetrated about six inches. I was using 100 gr. winchester factory ammo.

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I don't know. With some of the wackos I see in the woods during deer season, I don't know if I would encourage him to place his hands by his head like that while he was in the woods.

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Sorry dude, guess these 2 Canadian deer, shot by my wife & son, expired within 15 - 20 yrds, just from the mighty muzzle blast !!

Savage model 11 - .243, using 100gr Federal (blue box). Shot distances approx 100yrds. Broadside double lung. BOTH DEAD !!

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Sorry dude, guess these 2 Canadian deer, shot by my wife & son, expired within 15 - 20 yrds, just from the mighty muzzle blast !!

Savage model 11 - .243, using 100gr Federal (blue box). Shot distances approx 100yrds. Broadside double lung. BOTH DEAD !!



Thought that was your daughter. grin Good job on the deer kill.

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I put more importance on bullet placement than what caliber the bullet is. Even the 30-06 won't make up for sorry shooting!
(Based on what I have seen over the past 30 deer seasons.)
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Originally Posted by Folically_Challenged
Originally Posted by buckhorn1916
I am a 30-06 veteran that shot my first deer with a .243 this evening. Handload with Sierra Gameking 85 grain BTHP.
Blood and lung all over the place, waist high.....No deer??
I know the .243 kills deer, but do they normally run farther when hit with a .243 vs. a larger caliber? Just wanted to know some other experiences with this, thanks.


I can't help with a comparison, because a .243 is the only cartridge I've ever used to shoot deer, and my sample size may or may not need 2 hands to count. Though all were recovered, each of the deer ran further than I had wanted. As such, I determined that a .243 wasn't enough cartridge for deer hunting.

This, however, was > 25 years ago, back in my teens. I was shooting a Remington 788 carbine with the 18.5" barrel. I'm sure that it would have helped if I would have shot more than 8 or 9 rounds through it before the season. I would also wager that using hearing protection might have prevented me from becoming afraid of the copious muzzle blast, and developing the flinch I carried for years. Heck, shooting lots more rimfire than I did would likely have made me a much better shot. In short, I'm sure the fault was mine, and not the cartridge's.

To this day, though, I maintain a dislike for the .243. In fact, I don't care much for any of its -08 bretheren, either. It's totally illogical, and I'm well aware of that. I'm just thankful there are still many dozens of other cartridges out there for me to be smitten with.

This process probably has happened with all cartridges. I was the only fool in elk camp with enough gall to carry a .30-'06: everyone else knew that was far too impotent a cartridge for such tough, noble, & worthy creatures. But it sure worked like a charm on the elk that I shot. So now, with my sample size of 1, I shall henceforth go confidently into the field chasing elk with it, knowing that it worked for me.

The next time I do go deer hunting, I'll very likely be carrying my 7x57. I'm sure it won't kill the deer any deader, or any more quickly, than a solid shot from a .243, but I'll feel better about carrying it with me.

I hear folks talking about "finding their huckleberries". Though I'd never encountered the phrase before I came to this site, I'd surmise it applies pretty aptly to cartridge selection. And if your huckleberry differs from my own, that's OK.

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A .243 is to deer as a 30-06 is to elk. Is a 30-06 enough gun for elk? Same answer!

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Originally Posted by whelennut
I put more importance on bullet placement than what caliber the bullet is. Even the 30-06 won't make up for sorry shooting!
(Based on what I have seen over the past 30 deer seasons.)
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Never used more than one shot on most deer. Usually one is enough. I have had one deer run after being shot with a 243 and it was running to begin with. Shot placement is important though.


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The 280 is Almighty and better than both...cause it is in between. cool



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Ingwe: It grieves me to do so, but I am compelled to agree... frown

My last two 270 bucks were only "merely dead"....they were NOT "most sincerely dead"........ grin


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My admittedly somewhat limited experience is that animals of any variety are not long for this world if they have holes of any size in their lungs. If the bullet passed through the vitals, then the deer is there somewhere. I hope you're able to find him.

I'm going deer hunting all next week and I'll be using a .243 that has already dropped one good sized buck. I'm using 95 gr. Fusion factory ammo this year.


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