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I have both and grab the .260 when I am going to kill something.
For varmints I like my .22 mag, .222 or .223.
I think you need to keep the .308 and get a new toy with the rebarrel money.
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Hmmmmm. What bullet in .264" dia would you like to compare to the 110 Accubond in a Bob at 3012 fps in a 22" bbl. .418 BC.
A 120 gr Ballistic Tip with a .458 BC (G1)at 3000fps. A 130 Berger Hunting VLD (.552 G1) launched at 2850 trumps both of them in regards to wind. I am not as concerned with drop because that is easily compensated for. Right now I am shooting the Swift SciroccoII with a claimed .571 G1 out of a Swede at 2855 avg. No doubt if your .257 will regularly avg that 3012fps you have got a hot little efficient round. My point was there is a relatively large selection of great long range bullets in .264 compared to .257 if that is important to you. I do agree inside of 300 it is a wasted exercise. I have a Wyoming hunt this year and am thinking about the possibility of 600yard shot. Factoring in wind that easily gust over 10mph it gets interesting to run the numbers on different bullets. I know it is not necessary, but it is fun and rewarding. I will be shooting .264" bullet out of .260Rem or a 6.5x55. You have to admit the Swede does get cool points at least equal to the Roberts. Right?
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Exactly the reason I am wanting to rebarrel an Extreme Weather to 260. I like everything about my 270WSM EW including the stock but I am having trouble pulling the trigger on a brand new rifle.
I do like the thought of 120gr BT's for almost everything and less than 10 ft-lbs of recoil and this will probably sway me to buy.
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Exactly the reason I am wanting to rebarrel an Extreme Weather to 260. I really like the balance of the Extreme Weather as-is. What barrel would you contemplate using for such a task? Right now, I'm considering the 7-08, .270 and .308 in EW...but a .260 is probably more what I need.
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Hmmmmm. What bullet in .264" dia would you like to compare to the 110 Accubond in a Bob at 3012 fps in a 22" bbl. .418 BC.
A 120 gr Ballistic Tip with a .458 BC (G1)at 3000fps. A 130 Berger Hunting VLD (.552 G1) launched at 2850 trumps both of them in regards to wind. I am not as concerned with drop because that is easily compensated for. Right now I am shooting the Swift SciroccoII with a claimed .571 G1 out of a Swede at 2855 avg. No doubt if your .257 will regularly avg that 3012fps you have got a hot little efficient round. My point was there is a relatively large selection of great long range bullets in .264 compared to .257 if that is important to you. I do agree inside of 300 it is a wasted exercise. I have a Wyoming hunt this year and am thinking about the possibility of 600yard shot. Factoring in wind that easily gust over 10mph it gets interesting to run the numbers on different bullets. I know it is not necessary, but it is fun and rewarding. I will be shooting .264" bullet out of .260Rem or a 6.5x55. You have to admit the Swede does get cool points at least equal to the Roberts. Right? Last sentence I will agree with. But if I were going on a hunt.......and probably spending a bunch of money........and knew I had the possibliity of a 600 yard shot......I would neither take a 260 Rem or a 257 Rbts. I know that's a bunch of "if's". But I also know that the hunts I take my 257 Roberts on don't have the possibility of a 600 yard shot. Typically more like 100 yards or less. And just about any centerfire with a good bullet will take care of that.
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Exactly the reason I am wanting to rebarrel an Extreme Weather to 260. I really like the balance of the Extreme Weather as-is. What barrel would you contemplate using for such a task? Right now, I'm considering the 7-08, .270 and .308 in EW...but a .260 is probably more what I need. I want the barrel to match the original EW as close as possible without driving the price up. I priced a Pacnor stainless super-match barrel with six flutes (flutes matching the EW) and the price with a new rifle for the base build and I was well below a Cooper Excalibur which would be my second choice.
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Exactly the reason I am wanting to rebarrel an Extreme Weather to 260. I really like the balance of the Extreme Weather as-is. What barrel would you contemplate using for such a task? Right now, I'm considering the 7-08, .270 and .308 in EW...but a .260 is probably more what I need. I want the barrel to match the original EW as close as possible without driving the price up. I priced a Pacnor stainless super-match barrel with six flutes (flutes matching the EW) and the price with a new rifle for the base build and I was well below a Cooper Excalibur which would be my second choice. Good to know. One each of the M70 Extreme Weather in .260 and .338 Fed and I'd be set for life. Of course, I'd also need a Super Grade in .270 Win to round out the collection..... And a .25-06 in Sporter.... And a 7mm-08 Stainless Featherweight...... And a Coyote in .243...... 
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257 Roberts vs. 257 Roberts +P
What's the difference?
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+P has some special powder in it.
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Herschel34,
Im betting that your 308 Rifle you want to rebarrel is a short action.
If so, I think you should go with the 260Rem. Great round and you will enjoy it.
the 257 Roberts is awesome, but the 57mm case with 110gr, 117gr 120gr bullets seated out (or just seated medium) with bee too long for the magazine.
Based on those reasons only! thats what I would do and why.
1. I now see the wisdom and merits of much older generations.
2. Technology makes things cheaper, easier, and less labor intensive, but not necessarily better.
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the 257 Roberts is awesome, but the 57mm case with 110gr, 117gr 120gr bullets seated out (or just seated medium) with bee too long for the magazine.
Hate to disagree with you.....but I disagree with you. There's not much difference in velocity with a 257 Rbts loaded to 2.825" for a SA 700 or 3+ inches for a LA. I had a Rem Classic LA and there's no need for it. A SA Bob with loads at 2.825" will not suffer in the velocity category.
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257Heaven,
its no big deal. we all have opinions. I know the short action will work. I know bigger bullets can be seated deep. I was just sharing my opinion, and I stand by it.
it would bother me to have a x57mm cased cartridge in a SA. but, It wouldn't bother me to have a 260 Rem.
But, cartridge for cartridge I wold prefer the 257bob
1. I now see the wisdom and merits of much older generations.
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Glad I don't have to choose. I have both.
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Yep, Im glad I got both too! With four kids either just starting to hunt or getting ready to (three daughters) my collection won't go far!
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the 257 Roberts is awesome, but the 57mm case with 110gr, 117gr 120gr bullets seated out (or just seated medium) with bee too long for the magazine.
Hate to disagree with you.....but I disagree with you. There's not much difference in velocity with a 257 Rbts loaded to 2.825" for a SA 700 or 3+ inches for a LA. I had a Rem Classic LA and there's no need for it. A SA Bob with loads at 2.825" will not suffer in the velocity category. I have been back and forth trying to deside on this very subject. I WANT a .257 Roberts built on a Win. 70 Short action. And everyone has a different opinion on whether it will work or not. Many say it will, many say it wont. So how is one to know before spending alot of dollars ? IF it were to work, I would ONLY be needing it for deer using Barnes 100 grain TSX (TTSX) and smaller game. Being new to loading I would want the option of being able to seat the bullet out as far as possible IF NESSASSARY. Not mandatory of course, but if needed. What I have to work with rite now is my Featherweight .270 which I know will work, but if the long, heavy action isnt needed to acheive my goal I prefer not to change it and leave it original seeing as it was only made for 1 year. CAN SOMEONE GIVE ME A DEFINATIVE AND FINAL FACT ANSWER ON THIS ? (please)
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It will DEFINATELY work fine in a short action.
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You will have SLIGHTLY more velocity potential in a long action with a long throat. (maybe 50 fps, or so) But not enough that you will ever notice the difference in the field.
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Thinking about having my 308 rebarreled to a 257 roberts or 260 remington for no good reason other than because.
This will be for deer, hogs, less likely varmints.
Opinions???? You will probably enjoy shooting the .257 more, and shoot it year round at targets of opportunity.
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It all comes down to cartridge over all length (COAL).
Of corse the 257 Roberts (57mm case) will fit in a short action. IT WILL!!!
but it limits your COAL. if your fine with that, then Rock ON! build it, shoot it, love it!.
Here is a REALLY simple test for you.
take a cartridge you want to shoot in hand (best with the bullet you want to shoot seated in it at the COAL you want) and put it in the magazine.
Its really no more complicated than that.
try it.
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the 257 Roberts is awesome, but the 57mm case with 110gr, 117gr 120gr bullets seated out (or just seated medium) with bee too long for the magazine.
Hate to disagree with you.....but I disagree with you. There's not much difference in velocity with a 257 Rbts loaded to 2.825" for a SA 700 or 3+ inches for a LA. I had a Rem Classic LA and there's no need for it. A SA Bob with loads at 2.825" will not suffer in the velocity category. I have been back and forth trying to deside on this very subject. I WANT a .257 Roberts built on a Win. 70 Short action. And everyone has a different opinion on whether it will work or not. Many say it will, many say it wont. So how is one to know before spending alot of dollars ? IF it were to work, I would ONLY be needing it for deer using Barnes 100 grain TSX (TTSX) and smaller game. Being new to loading I would want the option of being able to seat the bullet out as far as possible IF NESSASSARY. Not mandatory of course, but if needed. What I have to work with rite now is my Featherweight .270 which I know will work, but if the long, heavy action isnt needed to acheive my goal I prefer not to change it and leave it original seeing as it was only made for 1 year. CAN SOMEONE GIVE ME A DEFINATIVE AND FINAL FACT ANSWER ON THIS ? (please) You'll have no prob. A Winne short action is longer than a Remmie and will handle a 3 inch cartridge.
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