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What are the differences between the two Remington Ti models, assuming a 7-08:
Weight? Blind magazine or Hinged Floorplate? Stock? Barrel?

It appears that the the Generation 1 model is more highly regarded? Is gen 2 decent? When (what year) did the model change over? Would you restock one or the other with a McMillian Edge to save weight?

I've got a 1989 or so era Model Seven with the Kevlar stock, rebarreled to .260 with a #2 @ 22" barrel. With a 3-9 FFII & Talley LWs it comes in at about 6-3/4#s. I got the rifle new as a prize for winning the Hunting and Fishing News monthly photo contest! I never liked the 18.5" barrel on the .243, even though it was plenty accurate.....too much muzzle blast. I really like the Kevlar stock as it is slender....are either of the Ti stocks comparable?

Thanks for the information. I am looking to potentially add a super light sheep capable rifle to the mix and am debating lightening what I already own or getting a Ti. Any comments? I live in BC after 35 years in Colorado and will hunt stones (with the bow, but am likely to take a back-up rifle if a non-hunting friend comes along to help pack).

My .260 shoots Todd Bartell's "old load" of H4831SC and 130 gr Accubonds into 3/4" for 5 shots at 100 meters. 95 gr V-Maxs with Varget go into the same group as well.


Alot of questions. Thanks for the replies.

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Gen 1 was a marvel of modern science...(grin) An honest 6.5lb rifle (all up w/ 6x42 scope) that had great accuracy. I've got 5 of them!

Gen 2 was a giant goat [bleep], and I wouldn't touch one unless I was buying for $750, and that would be just for the action.


But, you already have your rifle with the Model 7 260 you have..

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Also, McM Edge will save you 2-3 oz.

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What is the difference between the two?

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Below are the differences.

Generation 1 Ti:
22" Mountain contour barrel
ADL (blind magazine)
Bell & Carlson textured stock
Standard grooved Remington Trigger

Generation 2 Ti - Introduced in 2007 and since discontinued (AKA Alaskan Ti):
24" Magnum contour barrel w/ flutes
BDL w/ bottom floorplate
Bell & Carlson stock w/ Maxxguard (rubbery feeling)
Pro X trigger

As Calvin eludes to, the Gen 2 went away from being a mountain rifle, and added nearly a pound to the rifle in all the wrong places. The Alaskan is very nose heavy due to the longer, heavier contour barrel.
Good luck in your quest for a gen 1!



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That about nails it. I can't even fathom why Remington took a light Ti action, and give it a heavier barrel, made it BDL, and ruined an OK stock.

What makes a 1st Gen Ti so popular is that it had the light action, light barrel, and light stock. All the ones in my experience shot really well as issued.

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You guys nailed it dead on..

Remington wasted a perfectly good action on a very bad combo...

The 1st gens were absolutely perfect.


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Although this is probably to simple to answer, WHY would they make that change?

Just to market a new product at a higher price?

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In my eyes they saw that the 1st gen was so successful they saw that they could make more money with this one practically doubling the price...

I have to admit when I heard they were doing the Alaskan TI I got excited that is until I saw the price tag and how it felt..


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1st Gen Ti's weren't that expensive when they first came out. I got my 7-08 for around $750, new. My 270 was for around $650.

Recently, I picked up a used 30-06 and 260 that I had to remove a muzzle brake from for $875 each. Otherwise, they were in perfect shape, and whoever reworked the triggers did a hell of a job. Those two are some of the best shooting rifles I have.

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All,

Thanks for the education. What would be a fair price for a NIB Gen 1 7-08 if I can convince the owner to part with it? He is a friend and I want to be fair, but would like to own the rifle.

As Calvin says, I don't need it, but would like to have it!

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$900-1k. Take good care of it, and you won't lose a dime on it if you ever decide to sell it. And it'll take about 10 minutes on the classifieds.

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Does anyone know the weight difference between the two?



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The alaskan Ti is listed at 6 lb for short action,compared to the gen 1 at 5.25 lb. The gen 1 7mm-08 I had was just over 6 lb with talleys and a leupold fx-II 6x36 mounted on it.





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Wow, that's a significant difference. Remington suffers from self sabotage.



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I have been watching for a deal on my bext 30-06...a gen 1 Ti. They were listed at 5.5 lb


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If you had your choice of a 7-08 or 7 SAUM nib Gen 1 Ti which would you take for a sheep rifle to be used in British Columbia?

Does the SAUM weigh a 1/4 # more than the 7-08?

How bad is the recoil on the 7 SAUM? (I find my 6-3/4# Model Seven in .260 to be fine with 130 gr bullets at 2,800 fps as the Kevlar stock seems to absorb alot of the recoil. I never like getting abused. My old 12 gauge 870 short barreled slug gun beat me when I sighted it in years ago! So did my S&W 329 .44 magnum.

Thanks for this additional insite. My buddy has both rifles and I probably can talk him out of one, as neither are in use.

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What bullet do you want to use? The 120tsx out of the 7-08 is one hell of a combo.

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I'd just about give my left nut for a original TI in 7mm or .300 SAUM..

My semi custom M7 in 7mm SAUM weighs in at 6-12 unloaded, and it is a snappy little rig, but an absolute killer.


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Calvin,

I'd use TSX, Accubonds or Partitions. Right now I have trouble locating any of these bullets for the .260 in BC. I bought the only box of Accubonds I could find and luckily they shoot well. I haven't looked at the local selection for the 7mm but assume I could get something that would have a decent BC and stay together if one shot a larger animal than a sheep.

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