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#4941877 - 02/15/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Whiptail]
natman Offline
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Originally Posted By: DP4
Wow, that's a significant difference. Remington suffers from self sabotage.


Remington's marketing department couldn't sell a bucket of water to a man whose pants were on fire.

They'd freeze it first for better sectional density.

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#4942470 - 02/15/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: natman]
twisted8 Offline
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and then there is the 84m kimber montana....

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#4942516 - 02/15/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Calvin]
MtnHtr Offline
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Think an action manufacturer could make some $$ if they offered a Titanium Rem clone action and kept the price under six Benjamins?

Or how how about a Win 70 clone action in titanium for $600?

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#4942571 - 02/15/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: MtnHtr]
Jeff_O Offline
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Titanium is expensive stuff, and more importantly, machines much differently than steel.

Obviously doable but dunno if a small-batch builder could turn a profit at sux bills. Maybe!

How about a Kimber Montana Ti? That'd be cool.
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#4943044 - 02/15/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Jeff_O]
Greenbrier Offline
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I was told by a gunsmith that Remington did not even make the TI action. Has anyone heard this too?

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#4943207 - 02/15/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Greenbrier]
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Smith & Wesson

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#4943293 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: MtnHtr]
Greenbrier Offline
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That is what I was told...thanks for confirming.

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#4943429 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Kurt52]
Mark R Dobrenski Offline
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The biggest question I have is when and where is your sheep hunt, to heck with the gun gack...grin

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#4943452 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: coues32]
BCBrian Offline
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Originally Posted By: coues32
What is the difference between the two?


About one pound of dead weight...
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#4943594 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: MtnHtr]
djp Offline
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Originally Posted By: MtnHtr
Think an action manufacturer could make some $$ if they offered a Titanium Rem clone action and kept the price under six Benjamins?

Or how how about a Win 70 clone action in titanium for $600?

MtnHtr


X-Treme Shooting is bringing out a Titanium Rem clone...but it will be $1350.

They claim to be the only manufacturer of Titanium receivers in the US. I was under the impression they could have been making the actions for Remington, although I believe the first ones were made by Prairie Gun Works in Canada.

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#4943628 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: djp]
MtnHtr Offline
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Originally Posted By: djpepper

X-Treme Shooting is bringing out a Titanium Rem clone...but it will be $1350.


$1350? Sheesh I'd rebarrel a Montana and grin while the montucky boys weep!

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#4943808 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: MtnHtr]
Nrut Offline
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Originally Posted By: MtnHtr
Originally Posted By: djpepper

X-Treme Shooting is bringing out a Titanium Rem clone...but it will be $1350.


$1350? Sheesh I'd rebarrel a Montana and grin while the montucky boys weep!

MtnHtr

A new Montana and a rebarrel for $1350.00?
Please explain...
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#4943822 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Nrut]
djp Offline
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Gotta remember, the US boys aren't paying a 50% markup like we are....I did buy a used 84M Classic for about $800 once...but that was a fricking miracle.

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#4943866 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Nrut]
MtnHtr Offline
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Originally Posted By: Nrut
Originally Posted By: MtnHtr
Originally Posted By: djpepper

X-Treme Shooting is bringing out a Titanium Rem clone...but it will be $1350.


$1350? Sheesh I'd rebarrel a Montana and grin while the montucky boys weep!

MtnHtr

A new Montana and a rebarrel for $1350.00?
Please explain...


Where did I post a new Montana and rebarrel for $1350?

Hint - you're not comparing apples to apples........

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#4943911 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: MtnHtr]
Nrut Offline
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Originally Posted By: MtnHtr
Originally Posted By: Nrut
Originally Posted By: MtnHtr
Originally Posted By: djpepper

X-Treme Shooting is bringing out a Titanium Rem clone...but it will be $1350.


$1350? Sheesh I'd rebarrel a Montana and grin while the montucky boys weep!

MtnHtr

A new Montana and a rebarrel for $1350.00?
Please explain...


Where did I post a new Montana and rebarrel for $1350?

Hint - you're not comparing apples to apples........

MtnHtr

That's what I figured... whistle
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#4943979 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Nrut]
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Okay I'll bite. whistle

For $1350 you get an Extreme Ti action period and hopefully thats for a complete action. One still has to purchase a stock and have a new tube screwed on. Add about $1000 for a good stock and new tube installed. So now its up to around $2350 for a complete rifle.

For $1100 one can pickup a Montana. For another $500-600 one can have a complete custom rifle (The Montana's are a little barrel lite for my tastes so I would rebarrel). I would also repaint the Montana stock with Polane T and coat the action in KG GunKote for slickness. Total would be around $1700, maybe less if one trips the take-off barrel.

Savvy?

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#4944076 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
Kurt52 Offline
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Dober,

Stone sheep in BC! I'm a resident here and can DIY with a general open season licence.

Note that I couldn't talk my buddy out of either of his NIB Gen 1 Ti's. He wants to loan me one, but they are new and I don't want to abuse one for two weeks in the high country. Looks like the Model Seven .260 will make the trip unless I come by the right Kimber Montana or Remington Ti before the end of July.

Kurt

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#4944165 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: MtnHtr]
Nrut Offline
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MtnHtr,
My mistake as I figured that the X-treme price of $1350.00 was for a completed rifle..
$1350.00 for just the action is something that I wouldn't consider..
The going price for Montana 8400's up here is around $1350.00
A rebarrel would run around $750.00..
Thanks for your reply..
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#4944181 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Kurt52]
Mark R Dobrenski Offline
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Kurt-you r a lucky dog, do you get out and hunt those buggers yearly? And, is there a wait period after you kill?

You are truly blessed to be able to do this.

Dober
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#4944340 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
Kurt52 Offline
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Registered: 02/06/11
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Dober,

I took a job in BC in 2009 after 35 yrs of working and hunting in Colorado and many other great states in the USA. I've had 8 sheep tags in all, and managed to arrow two bighorns in Colorado and a desert sheep in Nevada on DIY hunts. Dalls in Alaska eluded me on one "cheap" guided hunt. Stone sheep were never on the menu...........until this year! After a year I became a resident of BC and can chase Stones in open units from August 1 to October 15. The limitations are how far I can backpack in with food and out with a sheep and vacation time away from work.

Kurt

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#4944347 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Kurt52]
Mark R Dobrenski Offline
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Way 2 kool be sure to check in and let us know how it goes.

How'd you do on the desert?

Dober
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#4944406 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Nrut]
djp Offline
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Originally Posted By: Nrut
MtnHtr,
My mistake as I figured that the X-treme price of $1350.00 was for a completed rifle..

Should have been more clear on that...I was using the post about Ti actions for $600, so my quote of $1350 was just for the action...but the action does include the bolt and recoil lug...but not the trigger or bottom metal.

There is no doubt they are expensive, but if you look at the glut of Rem 700 clones on the market at $1000 +/- $100, a Titanium one at $1350 isn't really out of line. Considering what the last Alaska Ti's were selling for...still not that crazy - especially when Remington was putting on a $50 trigger, $150 stock, and $50 barrel.

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#4944493 - 02/16/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: djp]
Nrut Offline
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djpepper,
I'll probably just go the faux Ti route as I just can't get justify spending over $1500.00 on another rifle at my age..
I have a .270 orig. Ti now and it sure has spoiled me..
The model 7's restocked in a 20oz. Wildcat stock aren't bad either..
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#4948014 - 02/17/11 Re: Gen 1 Ti versus Gen 2 Remington 700 Ti [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
Kurt52 Offline
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Registered: 02/06/11
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Loc: British Columbia
Dober,

I was very fortunate to bag a 10 year old desert sheep on day 8 of a potential 25 day hunt. He was broomed way back and a low scoring sheep...........but for a bowhunter a dream come true! I got him the last day my two buddies were in Nevada hunting with me so we got to enjoy the success together. Great memories from 20 years ago! I drew that tag in Nevada the first year I put in. Best lottery I could win, given I only play the license lottery.

Kurt

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