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Originally Posted by smokepole
Very cool, congrats to Kimber.


+1 on that. And thanks for the pics and the post!


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush

My oldest daughter Kimber (13) popped her first elk.

An Absolutely Perfect 375 yard shot (lasered), right behind the shoulder (where she was told to put the bullet) with her .308. She is pointing to the entry.


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Very cool Mackay!! Congrats to Kimber!!!!
Two questions:
1.(Rhetorical i guess) What's it like to hunt elk where you don't have to be a mountain climber to get at the darn things?
2. Is that a Mora knife in the exit wound picture? I think I have one just like it.


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That looks like one happy little girl nice shooting congrats Kimber, looks like a sweet rifle set up as well.

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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush

My oldest daughter Kimber (13) popped her first elk.

An Absolutely Perfect 375 yard shot (lasered), right behind the shoulder (where she was told to put the bullet) with her .308. She is pointing to the entry.


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Doesn't get any better than that.

Congrats to the young lady.

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139 gr scenars took this little cat down....

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Originally Posted by Snake River Marksman
Very cool Mackay!! Congrats to Kimber!!!!
Two questions:
1.(Rhetorical i guess) What's it like to hunt elk where you don't have to be a mountain climber to get at the darn things?
2. Is that a Mora knife in the exit wound picture? I think I have one just like it.


Thanks for all the congrats and Kudos!

In regards to the questions, these were taken on the face of the Lost River range, and on the slopes leading up to some of the highest peaks in Idaho. Only the late season, and cold drives them down. Normally they are WAY high up. It is not bad, but you still do some serious climbing in a day.


Yep. Moras. I managed to not have to stop and sharpen the 2 Moras I used each time. We would quarter up the animals,then sharpen the knives at the cabin. They are actually better knives than their price might indicate. It is only an opinion, but I think they are probably the best value in knives on the market today. Kimber has one for her pack as well.


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Fine looking cat Gonzaga!


THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.

The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.

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Thanks Mackay, congrats to Kimber.......that is a real trophy she has there.
Love that smile.....tells the whole story there.

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+ 1 on congrats to Kimber,
Doesn't get much better than that does it?
Should fill the freezer nicely

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Great job on the Elk to Mackay's Daughter!

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7mm 150grn Scenar L launched at ~2900fps from my rebarreled 8" twist 7-08AI Kimber Montana. Shot was 214yds, quartering away and uphill. Estimated impact velocity was 2575 - 2600 fps. Exit wound visible in this pic:

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Bullet hit below centerline on rib cage behind right shoulder:

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Took out both lungs and (I think) the top of the heart before exiting through the offside shoulder. Entire chest cavity was liquified, don't know how that buck ran like that but he did - for about 60 yds and literally fell over dead.

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Great shooting and great buck, congrats!


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Originally Posted by Canazes9


Bullet hit below centerline on rib cage behind right shoulder.....



Took out both lungs and (I think) the top of the heart before exiting through the offside shoulder. Entire chest cavity was liquified, don't know how that buck ran like that but he did - for about 60 yds and literally fell over dead.



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Because they will with lung hits....no matter what you use. There is no such thing as reliable DRT's with lung hits. The more game you shoot,the more you will see it.

Nice shot.




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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by Canazes9


Bullet hit below centerline on rib cage behind right shoulder.....



Took out both lungs and (I think) the top of the heart before exiting through the offside shoulder. Entire chest cavity was liquified, don't know how that buck ran like that but he did - for about 60 yds and literally fell over dead.



David


Because they will with lung hits....no matter what you use. There is no such thing as reliable DRT's with lung hits. The more game you shoot,the more you will see it.

Nice shot.



Bob,

Certainly I've shot a slew of deer and untold numbers of feral pigs that ran with lungs popped. I understand they do that.

I have just never seen destruction in the chest cavity like this before. Gutting the animal, the entire chest cavity was liquified, rolled over and it poured out! The buck literally stopped receiving oxygenated blood the instant the bullet hit.

The 60yds wasn't a full bore sprint. At the shot he hunched and jumped, bounced a couple times (mule deer bunny hops), then dropped into a fast walk/slow run up the rocky hill side till he fell over. I got back on him pretty quick and almost put another round in him, but I could see the blood pouring out his mouth and nose even at 6x and about 250yds.

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That sort of internal destruction is typical of thin-jacketed "target" bullets at what might be called conventional ranges. Have seen it many times with such bullets. Contrary to what some people say about the internal damage from TSX's and other monometal "petal" type bullets, the internal damage from Bergers, Scenars, MatchKings, etc. is normally far greater, so much more extensive you have to see it to believe it.

I once saw the heart of a big red stag, about the size of a mature cow elk, turned into a long flap of flesh no more than a half-inch thick by a 168-grain Berger Hunting VLD. The only reason it was even recognizable as the heart was the surface tissue--and the stag was shot at 250 yards with a .30-06, so bullet velocity at impact wasn't exceptionally fast.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
That sort of internal destruction is typical of thin-jacketed "target" bullets at what might be called conventional ranges. Have seen it many times with such bullets. Contrary to what some people say about the internal damage from TSX's and other monometal "petal" type bullets, the internal damage from Bergers, Scenars, MatchKings, etc. is normally far greater, so much more extensive you have to see it to believe it.

I once saw the heart of a big red stag, about the size of a mature cow elk, turned into a long flap of flesh no more than a half-inch thick by a 168-grain Berger Hunting VLD. The only reason it was even recognizable as the heart was the surface tissue--and the stag was shot at 250 yards with a .30-06, so bullet velocity at impact wasn't exceptionally fast.


This was my first kill with a Scenar. I've been shooting them a while, they are very accurate in everything I shoot, just hadn't decided to use them for hunting till this year. I'm sure some folks will feel like they are excessively destructive, but I was very pleased with the performance and plan to use them next year as well.

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I'll take those results all day long. Nice buck David..congrats..

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Yep, I don't mind the destruction caused by such bullets either, because on average they kill quicker than harder bullets--though "on average" must be emphasized. But have seen a higher percentage of instant drops from lung shots with target-type hollow-points than with conventional hunting bullets.

The damage does take a while to get used to, since it's normally greater around the exit hole than the entrance hole, which is the opposite of "conventional" expanding bullets. But the massive damage also means you can put the bullet somewhat further behind the shoulder and still get quick kills.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Yep, I don't mind the destruction caused by such bullets either, because on average they kill quicker than harder bullets--though "on average" must be emphasized. But have seen a higher percentage of instant drops from lung shots with target-type hollow-points than with conventional hunting bullets.

The damage does take a while to get used to, since it's normally greater around the exit hole than the entrance hole, which is the opposite of "conventional" expanding bullets. But the massive damage also means you can put the bullet somewhat further behind the shoulder and still get quick kills.



The Scenars have replaced just about every other bullet on my reloading bench.....

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