Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Optics Need some help with Talley Lightweight Mounts

Okay, so I am a little frustrated now, I will try to describe my problem as concisely as possible.

I bought some Talley Lightweight Low's for my Rem 700 and I mounted the bases 1 time for a dry run and then took them off and remounted them using the wheeler alignment tool (they were actually off a little but I was able to push the rear base to the right while tightening down the screw and they lined up perfectly) and used the blue loctite just to make sure they didn't back out over time. It was getting a little late so I decided I would let the loctite set overnight. Today I mounted the scope on the rifle, meticulously adjusting for eye relief and using the triple level tool to make sure the crosshairs were level. Then I started tightening down the ring screws and that is when I noticed that one of the ring screws was bigger than the others, so I thought that maybe I had gotten one of the base screws mixed up with the ring screws so I looked for the one that was a little different then the rest and removed it...no luck. I eventually removed both bases and none of the base screws matched the ring screws.

I was just wondering if anyone else who has these mounts could look and see if there ring screws are all the same or is one slightly larger. The only problem with the different screw is that it has a longer screw head on it and it is sits up higher than the rest and is actually looser than the other screws when tightened down to talley's recommended torque of 17-20 in/lbs. Basically, It is making it a pain to apply even torque to the rings. I have attached a pic of one of the normal ring screws (left) and the mutant screw (right).

Hopefully my photo will show up, it's the first time I have tried posting a pic.

Any input would be welcomed.



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Cap screws are always same/same..................

So that means that they put the wrong screw in the pack? You think I should call them and get them to send me a new set. Shoot, with all the trouble I have had they should send me a new set of mounts with all the right screws and let me keep these.

Maybe I am just trying to be a perfectionist but I just want this scope mounted a "perfect" as possible. Thanks for the quick response.

Call them Monday and you'll have a new screw by Thursday.

If you need to shoot before then just use the long screw until you can change it out.

Thanks nsaqam. I will give them a call.

I'd yam it tight and run it...but I ain't any good at fretting schit that don't matter................(grin)

Huh. I bet I've used 20 sets of the Talley ltwts and never had that problem. I guess you're just.......lucky?

Yeah, if it is going to happen it usually happens to me, or at least it feels that way. Oh well. I will go ahead and remount everything just so I have my rifle looking good again and get it out of the vise. I am going to give them a call though and get that screw one way or another.

One thing I will say is that Talley has great customer service, I have called them 2 times now and there has always been someone who answers the phone by the 2nd ring and they are actually helpful.

I called them this morning about the ring screw, emailed them the pic of the screws and they said that they would send me out some new screws and that I should have them tomorrow. 5 star customer support.

Best of all, you could've driven over to pick 'em up. Least I'm thinking they're in SC. They are great to deal with. Been helpful to me on a couple of occasions.

Paler,
Happened to look at this webpage at lunch and your post reminded me: this has happened to me before w. Talleys purchased for a Savage 11. All ring screws were same length, but base screws were as you describe. Using the wrong screw in the wrong base hole resulted in: a) not enough thread to "grab" and/or b) screw protruding through the hole and binding the bolt. Swapping screws around got the right screw in the right hole. The scope has been mounted and in operation for some years now, no problems. (I did have to call 'em once, and CS was very good at getting necessary parts to me quickly.)

Ella

Gary and Chris are the best to deal with. I've converted everything over to Talleys. I have also weaned myself off of any Loctite as per their insistence. Have not had a lick of trouble from the 223 to the 375 H&H. The Talkeetna went for a couple hundred miles of rough snowmachine riding not to mention about 60 miles of airboat bouncing too.

I hate LocTite too.

Like bloody knuckles on everything though.................

Palerider,

I bought a set of Talleys that was sans one screw; just missing. They sent me a screw post-haste. Good folks and a great product. Good luck!!

-jeff

Yeah, I was disappointed at first but the way Talley handled the problem in a quick, efficient manner was top notch. I am very pleased with the Talley Mounts. Piece of cake to install and everything just about lined up on the first try (dry run), used the scope alignment tools from wheeler to get it perfect (had to push rear base to the right as I was torquing down).

Also when I put the scope in the mounts it didn't sit flat but when I talked to them about the screw I also asked them about lapping the rings, they said no to lapping and that they are machined that way so that when you torque it down for effect the aluminium will give a little and result in even torque if I do my job right.

Just waiting on the screw to get here. Shouldn't be to long before the mail comes today.

Oh yeah, meant to tell yall, when I took the old ring bases of the 06 I found that the rear ring was loose, and the bottom of the ring (where it inserts into the base was all deformed, which may have contributed to some of my problems at the range with the old scope. Only thing is that the I checked the mounts before and they would never move. It etched a deep groove into my old scope, I guess when the gun recoiled it would move a little. It was a weaver type so maybe the windage screw adjustments were just torqued to much, and failed over time. Don't remember since it was the same scope I have had for 20 yrs.

Which is why I love to buy used rifles that "don't shoot"...................(grin)

So I got my screws from Talley the other day. They actually sent me an entire new set (8 screws) (6-32 3/8 just in case anyone was wondering). I just finished mounting the scope on the rifle. It was much easier this time now that all screws are the same size (go figure). I will say this, the wheeler engineering Level-level-level tools are priceless for mounting a scope. Used the Leupold zero point boresighter to get it close. My rig is now ready for the range, looking forward to see how it will shoot now. I have included some pics of the new scope and a couple of pics of the old scope ring that was probably giving me the inconsistency.


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The old scope rings were not Talley's by the way.

Yes....I have had that happen with two sets I bought.