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If anyone with Quickload software is willing, I would sure like to see what the program describes for 3 different Hornady bullets for 6.5x55 Swede (modern action) using VV N160 powder (120 grain GMX, 140 grain SST, and 160 grain RN, using default lengths and case capacity, 2.95� COAL, 1:8 twist, and 22� barrel). I am interested in N160 charge increment data (velocities and max pressures generated).
I realize I�m being a beggar, asking for this, but I�m new and am trying to learn.

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I do not have QL but I can tell you of my experience. I am using the "High Energy" N560 and the 130gr Swift Scirocco 2. With the book max load I am hitting 2855 average out of a Tikka T3 that has a very generous throat length. I am very happy with the accuracy and velocity (every group during load development was near or at .5")

I have no high pressure signs. This is a very full case but not compressed. Fortunately the T3 has a long mag box and allows for a very long COAL. The cartridge looks weird with all that bullet sticking out but it has full neck contact and performs.

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Cartridge          : 6.5 x 55 Swedish
Bullet             : .264, 120, Hornady GMX 26110
Useable Case Capaci: 50.185 grain H2O = 3.258 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.950 inch = 74.93 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Vihtavuori N160

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.094% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.9   92    40.70   2384    1515   33517   8935     85.5    1.400
-09.8   93    41.20   2415    1554   34673   9087     86.2    1.381
-08.8   94    41.70   2445    1593   35868   9237     86.9    1.363
-07.7   95    42.20   2476    1633   37105   9386     87.6    1.342
-06.6   96    42.70   2506    1674   38388   9533     88.3    1.322
-05.5   97    43.20   2537    1715   39717   9678     88.9    1.300
-04.4   99    43.70   2568    1757   41096   9821     89.5    1.279
-03.3  100    44.20   2599    1800   42524   9962     90.2    1.259
-02.2  101    44.70   2630    1843   44006  10101     90.8    1.239
-01.1  102    45.20   2661    1887   45544  10237     91.4    1.219
+00.0  103    45.70   2692    1931   47140  10371     91.9    1.200  ! Near Maximum !
+01.1  104    46.20   2724    1977   48793  10502     92.5    1.181  ! Near Maximum !
+02.2  105    46.70   2755    2022   50515  10630     93.0    1.162  ! Near Maximum !
+03.3  106    47.20   2786    2069   52302  10755     93.5    1.144  ! Near Maximum !
+04.4  108    47.70   2818    2116   54159  10876     94.0    1.126  ! Near Maximum !
+05.5  109    48.20   2849    2163   56086  10994     94.5    1.108  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by � 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    103    45.70   2773    2049   51625  10597     95.1    1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    103    45.70   2603    1805   42845  10037     88.0    1.253


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Cartridge          : 6.5 x 55 Swedish
Bullet             : .264, 140, Hornady SST 26302
Useable Case Capaci: 48.653 grain H2O = 3.159 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.950 inch = 74.93 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Vihtavuori N160

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.152% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-11.5   89    38.40   2234    1551   34013   8866     88.6    1.491
-10.4   90    38.90   2263    1592   35224   9016     89.2    1.470
-09.2   92    39.40   2293    1634   36484   9165     89.9    1.449
-08.1   93    39.90   2322    1676   37788   9312     90.5    1.428
-06.9   94    40.40   2351    1719   39139   9456     91.1    1.403
-05.8   95    40.90   2381    1762   40542   9599     91.7    1.380
-04.6   96    41.40   2411    1806   41996   9738     92.3    1.357
-03.5   97    41.90   2440    1851   43506   9875     92.9    1.335
-02.3   99    42.40   2470    1896   45070  10009     93.4    1.313
-01.2  100    42.90   2500    1942   46690  10140     94.0    1.292
+00.0  101    43.40   2529    1989   48364  10268     94.5    1.271  ! Near Maximum !
+01.2  102    43.90   2559    2036   50093  10393     94.9    1.250  ! Near Maximum !
+02.3  103    44.40   2589    2083   51885  10514     95.4    1.230  ! Near Maximum !
+03.5  104    44.90   2619    2132   53745  10631     95.9    1.210  ! Near Maximum !
+04.6  106    45.40   2648    2181   55677  10745     96.3    1.190  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.8  107    45.90   2678    2230   57682  10855     96.7    1.171  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by � 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    101    43.40   2600    2101   52787  10410     97.1    1.222  ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    101    43.40   2450    1867   43946  10015     91.0    1.326


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Cartridge          : 6.5 x 55 Swedish
Bullet             : .264, 160, Hornady RN 2640
Useable Case Capaci: 50.753 grain H2O = 3.295 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.950 inch = 74.93 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Vihtavuori N160

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.16% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-11.6   85    38.10   2125    1605   34584   9295     91.7    1.574
-10.4   86    38.60   2152    1646   35779   9444     92.3    1.552
-09.3   87    39.10   2179    1688   37007   9590     92.9    1.531
-08.1   88    39.60   2206    1730   38271   9735     93.4    1.507
-07.0   89    40.10   2234    1772   39576   9876     94.0    1.482
-05.8   91    40.60   2261    1816   40924  10015     94.5    1.458
-04.6   92    41.10   2288    1860   42318  10151     94.9    1.435
-03.5   93    41.60   2315    1904   43759  10284     95.4    1.412
-02.3   94    42.10   2342    1949   45248  10414     95.8    1.390
-01.2   95    42.60   2369    1994   46788  10540     96.3    1.368
+00.0   96    43.10   2396    2040   48381  10663     96.7    1.346  ! Near Maximum !
+01.2   97    43.60   2423    2086   50028  10782     97.0    1.325  ! Near Maximum !
+02.3   98    44.10   2450    2133   51732  10898     97.4    1.304  ! Near Maximum !
+03.5   99    44.60   2477    2180   53495  11009     97.7    1.284  ! Near Maximum !
+04.6  101    45.10   2504    2228   55319  11117     98.0    1.264  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.8  102    45.60   2531    2276   57206  11220     98.3    1.245  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by � 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     96    43.10   2457    2145   52629  10724     98.6    1.296  ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     96    43.10   2327    1923   44196  10482     93.8    1.403


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Thank you very much for the replies.

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This is my first experience with handloading and I'm pretty new to this forum, so take my long post here for what it's worth.

I put together some 6.5x55 Swedish cartridges and tested them with no signs of pressure problems. As anyone reading this thread probably knows, the data for loading 6.5x55's has quite a bit of variability, both at the starting load end and the maximal load end. I understand that people should be safe with their own equipment, so I am not suggesting that any loads in my post are good or recommended to others (or free from typos, etc...). But I'll just show the direction I'm going with working up a load using Vihtavouri N160 and Hornady 140 gr SST bullets for a 1 in 8" twist Howa rifle.

Hornady gives load data for the N160/140 gr SST combination (start at 37.0 grains, max at 41.0). Vihtavouri gives much hotter loads for 140 grain bullets (with a starting load at 43.4), but nothing specific to Hornady SSTs.

Below is the result from testing one each of 39, 40, 41, and 42 grain N160 loads at the same target (Hornady 140 gr SST, once-fired Win brass, CCI-200 primers, 3.00" COAL, Howa rifle, target at 100 yds, Chrony at 10 yds, 30 F, 7000 ft elev., no wind), indicating that these loads grouped together pretty well despite differing muzzle velocities.

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And a comparison of Quickload-predicted velocities to measured

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For comparison, I clocked Winchester factory 6.5x55 rounds the same day at 2510-2531 fps, so my test loads were all slower than US factory ammo. I am liking the grouping, though, so I might be close to satisfied for my deer/antelope needs.

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