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Originally Posted by flattop_johnny
The Creedmoor is currently being offered in 3 Rifles from Ruger, a couple from Savage, at least the 4 different versions of the Icon from T/C, DPMS in the AR platform, the Tubb rifle, and one more match rifle whose name is slipping my mind at the moment.

I like all the 6.5's; each for a different reason...maybe I like Rugers, and the only 260 they offer is the Laminated Compact, which has way too short of a length of pull for me, not to mention a "Worthless" 16-1/4" barrel.

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So ,how is that Target Ruger shooting for you?????What weight bullets do you use and what kind of groups?????Sounds like a fun gun .Welcome to the Fire. grin


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
...Some shooters would even argue that there's an advantage to the 6.5x55 over the .260 in a .30-06 length action, since like the 6.5 Creedmoor in a 2.8" magazine, any bullet can be seated out to touch the lands.

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Not a 6.5 shooter of anything,yet, but a die hard looney, so this is exactly the reason why the 6.5X55 is getting a strong look as a potential rebarrel for a LH Model 70 .30-06 I'm getting.

It's also THE reason why I chose the .250 Savage AI over a Bob in a LH short action M700, even though Redding dies are twice as expensive, Lee doesn't make a collet die for it except via custom, and brass, while available, is not "widely" available.

And finally it's also why, when thinking about rebarreling a LH M700 .308, I searched old posts for "creedmoor" and found this one.

Have been frustrated more than once by the 7mm-08 and especially the .308 when a chosen bullet will not get near the lands and still fit a 2.8" Remington magazine.

Just a little less case length vs. magazine constraints will get you there with room to spare, bad pun intended.

And having tested a 3.150" OAL 7mm Mauser dummy round in another M70 .30-06, that extra .3" of magazine really doesn't look like too much wasted space at all. wink


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So ,how is that Target Ruger shooting for you?????What weight bullets do you use and what kind of groups?????Sounds like a fun gun .Welcome to the Fire. grin [/quote]

When I first bought the Target Ruger; Creedmoor brass was backordered, so I took a chance and bought 6 boxes of factory 140 gr A-max's (worse case scenario I would have brass)...every group including the first group has been sub-MOA @100yds. This rifle will usually put the first 3 rounds into a ragged hole, which may open up a little when firing 5 shot groups.
At 300 yds I've yet to shoot over a 2" group, with most tending to stay around
1.5"....While I have a great shooting CZ 550 American in 6.5x55 for a hunting bolt action, I still am contemplating about getting another Ruger for a hunting rig in the Creedmoor...was thinking about the new all weather Hawkeye, but swapping the synthetic stock with one of Rugers grey laminate versions.(my gunsmith...Mitch Shultz...leases a building behind Rugers shop so he may be able to make this possible)
All in all, I like the target rifle immensely....And thank you for the Welcomes...Its great to be here.
good shootin'
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Ramshot Powder site load data version 4.5 lists loads and pressures for 6.5 Grendel (for AR-15 20" barrel), 6.5mmx47 Lapua, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5x55mm, 260 Remington, 6.5mmx284, and .264 Winchester Magnum. They are all on the same page, so easy to compare performance and pressures. All but the Grendel use 24" barrel.

Max pressures over 60,000 psi show for 6mmx47, 6.5mmx284, and .264 Win Mag.

Max pressures in data: 6.5 Creedmoor 59,000 psi, 260 - 57,860 psi, 6.5x55mm - 55,090 psi. As the tests did not use the same bullets in the various weights, comparison is not exact. Their performance appears faily similar with a speed edge to the Creedmoor. 6.5x55mm does well with 140-gr Partition - does not give up significant speed to the others. I guess Ramshot's powders would be about equally suitable for all three, as their case capacities are so close, although slower powder was used in the 6.5x55mm.

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I have had excellent luck with Ramshot Big Game and 100-grain bullets in the Creedmoor, and Hunter does great with 120-140 grain bullets. In the 26" barrel of my Hawkeye sporter, the Ramshot Hunter data gets 3100 with 120 Ballistic Tips and 2850 with 140 Berger VLD's, with excellent accuracy.


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Like I have stated before, I have a 250 AI that I simply love,and I have killed a number of deer with it it.....all one hot kills with either Sierra 100 grn game kings or 100 grn Nosler BT with RL15 running about 3100 fps.I just think the 6.5 creedmoor would be a great deer / antelope set up with bit heavier bullet.I also have a 6.5-06 AI but it is set up as a bean field type rifle....great for blind hunting but too heavy to carry around. Been thinking that the 6.5 creedmoor jut might be the ticket in the Ruger 77 Hawkeye. Sounds like they are shooting pretty good out of the box and there are enough ways you tweak Ruger's if it does not.All my rifles are synthetic and stainless....thinking at least one in walnut and blue would be nice. Do most of you guys use the rings Ruger supplies with the hawkeye or do something different?

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I see a standard (blue and walnut) and an all weather (stainless and synthetic) at Ruger's site. Both are listed with 24-inch barrels. A target model with stainless, laminate, and 28-inch thick tapered barrel, weighing 9.5 lb, is listed. No. 1 light sporter with 22-inch barrel is cataloged, too.

Hawkeye sporter with laminate and stainless would be one of the most attractive configurations, but 6.5 Creedmoor is not in there, now.

Savage lists in 6.5 Creedmoor a model 16 FCSS Weather Warrior with 22-inch barrel and a model 12 Long Range Precision with 26-inch barrel weighing 11 lb. Found 6.5 Creedmoor and .260 Rem in a model 11 Long Range Hunter 26-inch barrel, weight 8.4-lb. It is similar to the model 111 below that comes in 6.5mmx284 Norma, but a little lighter. It did not show up when I used the gun finder by caliber 6.5 Creedmoor on their site, but did when I looked for .260 Rem.

Savage lists seven models in 6.5mmx284 Norma. A couple of them are model 12 target and bench rest - long and heavy. 111 Long Range Hunter (26-inch barrel, adj muzzle brake, almost 9 lbs), 111 Lightweight Hunter (20-inch barrel), 110 Predator Hunter Max 1 (24-inch barrel, near 9 lbs), and Weather Warrior (right and left handed, 22-inch barrel, under 7 lb). This would be a different topic.

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