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Popularity is not really exampled in such a short time. In 10 years you will see if it has potential to survive and in 20 years, you will see whether it did, becuase the current shooters are not the people who determine this, it is up to the next generation of huters to determine.

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Sako makes a couple and Federal has the following:

338 Federal 180 Nosler� AccuBond�

338 Federal 210 Nosler� Partition�

338 Federal 185 Barnes� Triple-Shock� X Bullet�

338 Federal 200 Trophy Bonded� Tip

338 Federal 200 Soft Point Power-Shok�

338 Federal 185 Soft Point American Eagle�

Fusion 200gn

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Originally Posted by prm
Sako makes a couple and Federal has the following:

338 Federal 180 Nosler� AccuBond�

338 Federal 210 Nosler� Partition�

338 Federal 185 Barnes� Triple-Shock� X Bullet�

338 Federal 200 Trophy Bonded� Tip

338 Federal 200 Soft Point Power-Shok�

338 Federal 185 Soft Point American Eagle�

Fusion 200gn

I'd think a guy could get lots of stuff done right smartly with those seven factory loads.

I'd be sorely tempted to use only the 185gr TSX if it shot well, though. I can't imagine there isn't anything you couldn't do with that load, pronghorn to moose, duiker to eland.


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I was disappointed to find out Federal will not release the 200 Trophy Bonded Tip as a component item for reloading. The 185 TSX has certainly proven to work well, but the 185 TTSX has a much, much, better BC which is helpful for the 338 Fed at it's furthest reaches. Ballistically, the 185 TTSX and the 210 Scirocco II seem to do the best. FWIW, they'll be right around 2000 FPS at 500 yds if fired at elk hunting elevations.

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Originally Posted by whelennut
Originally Posted by ingwe
Whats a .338 federal....? whistle

Ingwe,
Think of it as a .308 with big girl panties.
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DPMS offers it in their AR 10. That would be a good choice if you ever get pinned down by a herd of bears.
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Whelenut, that one really made me grin!

I recently received in trade a DPMS LR-308 w/16" barrel that weighs in at 11.5 pounds with full-20rd mag and Leupy compact 2-7x scope. I shot amateur-level in our gun club/locally doing CMP shoots when that was big about 10+ years ago, and now that I have been shooting with various types of firearms over the last few years, the AR-type gun really appeals to me, and despite the muzzle blast, I really love this gun!

I & my gun-pimp were musing about the DPMS in other calibers, and he stated that it was once available in 300 SAUM. I saw that it was not any longer, but 338 fed was. I cannot afford to do anything for about a years, but you know, with this lower in 308 for a SHTF scenario, plus a 243 or 260 upper and a 338 fed too....well, that would go a long way towards totally covering everything i was interested in hunting....ya know?


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I'm Thinking of getting an AR in .338 Fed.


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Originally Posted by temmi
I'm Thinking of getting an AR in .338 Fed.


That will kill it.

I would give your left arm for a winchester Model 70 Extreme Weather in .338 Federal. grin...


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It appears to be equal to the 7mm mag in a short cartridge and less recoil.

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Huh....?

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If you look at the load data for the 160 gr bullet in 338 Federal and the 7mm rem mag the fps is the same with the 338 having more ft lbs of energy

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Originally Posted by wilkeshunter
I had to sell one in a Ruger Hawkeye and I regret it. It sure shot great and I would like to have it back.


Wondering if I bought yours... If so, thanks a bunch! It's a tack-driving, critter-slaying machine with TSX 185-grain. I won't be parting with it.


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Originally Posted by whelennut
Originally Posted by ingwe
Whats a .338 federal....? whistle

Ingwe,
Think of it as a .308 with big girl panties.
grin
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Somehow, seeing the words, "big girl panties" in proximity to Ingwe's name is fundamentally disturbing... Whatever you do, do NOT further inspire him with any talk of leopard-print patterns...


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It's some stuff the marketing types at Federal came up with to try and schlep their first proprietary cartridge...."it has the energy of a 7mm magnum" or some such.

They should have just told it like it is....the .338 Federal pokes a big hole in chit and hits critters like a ton of bricks inside of 400 yards, and does so with very manageable recoil and in a handy package that doesn't need a long
barrel to reach maximum performance.

IMHO, with modern bullets it really is a 21st century cover of the grand old .318 Westley Richards. And that's damn fine company to keep.





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Does anyone have any real world knowledge about how this round does in regards to wasted meat? I was wondering about this while reading another post covering the topic.

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Wasted meat... as compared to what?

I've shot a bunch of hogs with the .338 Fed and have not noticed any abnormal amount of meat damage. I've shot them exclusively with the 185-gr. TSX and have observed less meat damage than with, say, rounds like a 130-gr. 270 Win SP.


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Meat damage is caused by bullets, not cartridges.

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Originally Posted by 264wm
If you look at the load data for the 160 gr bullet in 338 Federal and the 7mm rem mag the fps is the same with the 338 having more ft lbs of energy


U seriously believe that the 160 out of a 338 Federal is gonna be the equal of the 7 Rem with a 160...? I've had no issues running a 160 out of a 7 rem at 3100 with what I would call a standard 24" barrel. What speeds the 338 Federale gonna run a 160? Be my guess with what I would call a normal 22" tube of 22" 2900 would be about top end speed.

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My father won a sako 338 federal at an auction. He was exited at first because he thought it was a 338 win mag. He was so discusted when he found out it was a 338 federal and looked at the ballistics he hasen't shot it yet and it has sat in the gun rack untouched for at least a year if not more now. He is looking at rebarreling it to a 243.

The ballistics to me say "meh" so what. If all your shots are limited to 200 yards and you feel the need for a large hole using a bullet with poor SD then this is probabbly a good choice, but then again there are a number of other good choices out there that already do just that.

Not that it is a bad caliber, I just don't see what it has over other calibers.

Now in an Ar10 it makes perfect sense and almost seems made for an auto.

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I've heard of over 3000 with a 22" tube, but I'm not going to suggest it's beyond a 7mm mag. Also there would be an advantage at range due to skinny 7mm bullets. Certainly would matter if looking for a long range rifle (>450-500yds). But it's also close enough that out to a few hundreds yards, the ranges where probably 90%+ of game are taken, I doubt one could measure much of a difference in the field. Barnes reloading data indicates 3089 fps for the 160 (albeit a 24" tube). I've found I can meet their data easily with a 22" though.

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I really like this cartridge. I think it is more efficient than my 35 Whelen. I think with 210 Nosler Partitions it would put a bears dick in the dirt PDQ!
I think Remington should put it in the Model 7, Browning should put it in the BLR and DPMS has already put it in the AR 10.
Not including the internet, the average hunter has no business shooting beyond the effective range of this cartridge.(IMO)
It should leave a good Helen Keller bloodtrail and any elk, moose, or bear should be proud to be harvested with such a cartridge. It is not all that different from Elmer Keith's .333 OKH, which was one of his favorites.
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