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is it gone for good? I am pissed I have killed a lot of time playing, learned a ton, and lost very little.

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What do you mean, gone for good??? Played last night...

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Try and play at pokerstars today in a real money tournament

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aarrrgh!!!

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Government already has their hand in my pocket... What are they going to grab when the cash is gone ? ?

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Online gambling has to be hurting harry reids las vegas.


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I've been playing at fulltilt. finally making money doing it.


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Originally Posted by Irving_D
I've been playing at fulltilt. finally making money doing it.


Is full tilt still aloowing you to play? I an only play in play money games at pokerstars

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Originally Posted by EddyBo
Originally Posted by Irving_D
I've been playing at fulltilt. finally making money doing it.


Is full tilt still aloowing you to play? I an only play in play money games at pokerstars

So far but I'm thinking of cashing out. Read this the goverment can't stop f'ing stuff up.

NEW YORK � The multi-billion-dollar business of the three biggest Internet poker companies became a target of federal authorities before an indictment was unsealed Friday, charging 11 people with bank fraud and illegal gambling.
Prosecutors in Manhattan said they've issued restraining orders against more than 75 bank accounts used by the poker companies, interrupting the illegal flow of billions of dollars.
U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said the defendants "concocted an elaborate criminal fraud scheme, alternately tricking some U.S. banks and effectively bribing others to assure the continued flow of billions in illegal gambling profits."
The companies, all based overseas, were identified as PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker. The indictment sought $3 billion in money laundering penalties and forfeiture from the defendants.
The indictment said the companies ran afoul of the law after the U.S. in October 2006 enacted the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act, which makes it a crime for gambling businesses to knowingly accept most forms of payment in connection with the participation of another person in unlawful Internet gambling.
Authorities said Absolute Poker responded by saying in a release after the new law was enacted that it would continue its U.S. operations because "the U.S. Congress has no control over" the company's payment transactions.
Efforts to reach the companies for reaction were not immediately successful. Phone calls either went unanswered or messages were not immediately returned. An attempt to look at the website for PokerStars.com was met with a message from the FBI saying the domain name had been seized as part of a criminal probe.
The indictment said the defendants turned to fraudulent methods to trick financial institutions into processing payments on their behalf after the law was passed.
It said they sometimes arranged for money from U.S. gamblers to be disguised as payments to hundreds of non-existent online merchants purporting to sell merchandise such as jewelry and golf balls.
Prosecutors said about a third or more of the billions of dollars in payment transactions that the poker companies tricked U.S. banks into processing went directly to the poker companies as revenue. They said the money represented the "rake" charged to players on almost every poker hand played online.
Arrests occurred in Las Vegas and Utah.
Frank Fahrenkopf, chief executive of the American Gaming Association, the commercial casino industry's main trade group, said the prosecution shows a "clear need to strengthen laws to address illegal online gambling in the U.S."
He added: "Tough law enforcement is the key to making such a system work, and the AGA supports strong enforcement against illegal online gambling activity in this country. But illegal activity � and the risk of consumer fraud, money laundering and underage gambling � will continue until the U.S. passes laws ensuring that only licensed, taxed and highly regulated companies can operate in the U.S. market."
Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval said the allegations made by federal prosecutors against the three companies were of "grave concern." But he added that he remained committed to the possibility that federal legislation will eventually permit Internet gambling in a way that matches the same rigorous standards that apply to traditional gaming institutions.
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My son was making his living off online poker(was). He was doing really well this year. He just lost access to 9k when the site got locked down, 3 hours AFTER he sent the IRS a check for last years taxes. Luckily he's been pulling his money out as he makes it or he would have lost everything

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I don't have a dog in this one, but this clearly shows the power of lobbyists and the corruption of government in collecting their "stake" in gambling. Had the on-line gamblers not tried to cut out the Feds of what they rightly felt was theirs, or if they had lobbied half as hard as the casinos did for that stupid on line gambling law, this never would have happened.

As an aside, how do the feds have the right to seize an internationally registered domain? I can see them blocking access to it within the US, but if online gambling is legal in other countries and the domain is hosted outside the US, where do they get the authority?


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yup... Big 3 are gone johnson

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Originally Posted by Sendero_man
yup... Big 3 are gone johnson

Ultimate Bet is still going



not anymore. i looked up the site and the feds seized it.


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This really sux, thanks Barney Franks.

I guess I have to start my home tournament back up. For years we played every friday night in my game room. After internet poker gained popularity more of the players chose to stay home and play online, and the game died off. We went from 18 weekly players to about 7 regulars.

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Originally Posted by whambasted
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yup... Big 3 are gone johnson

Ultimate Bet is still going



not anymore. i looked up the site and the feds seized it.


Ultimate Bet is still going. Not shut down....

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Is it possible to cash out of fulltilt or is everything F'ed


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I wonder how this will affect televised poker tournaments like the WSOP and Wolrd Poker Tour. Seems like all the televised poker tourneys just lost their main sponsers.

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just lost a butt load of qualifiers too !! main bulk of people were off internet poker sites at the WSOP main event.

It was going before online poker, I am sure it will survive ! Not to mention the pros might be a lot happier !!

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I don't know I've got 300 bucks in my account, I wonder if I can take that off of my Income tax.


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