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I've been using H335 in my Cooper .204 with excellent accuracy(in the .2-.3's) using Berger 40gr bullets. I've heard some talk that guys don't like H335 and prefer TAC powder. I'd like to know why the dislike for H335. I've heard TAC is a cleaner burning powder. Is that the only advantage? My groups don't warrant any change but I am down on my H335 supply so thought I might try some TAC if I get good info. Any constructive feedback is welcome.
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Tac shoots fine. The data is not as well-developed yet as H 335 (I tried it, liked other powders better), but I have worked up a couple of loads for it without any major issues.
One thing, given you are shooting 40s, maybe you would be better off trying not just a pound of TAC, but also X-Terminator. Both are ball powders, both fairly clean.
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Along with being cleaner-burning than H335 (MUCH cleaner, in my experience) TAC also contains a de-coppering agent, because it was originally developed as a powder for full-auto military arms. Accuracy is usually very good with TAC, but I use a lot of it in varmint rifles partly because I don't have to clean barrels nearly as often as when loading traditional ball powders like 335.
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Absolutely.. I've got a very good load for 50's with 335 in my .223, and just as accurate of a load with TAC.. But compared to TAC, 335 makes my barrel look like the exhaust pipe on a diesel truck.
TAC wins.
I replace valve cover gaskets every 50K, if they don't need them sooner...
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I appreciate TAC for its clean burn value and it also seems to be more temperature tolerant than 335. I found that I could get accuracy equal to 335 with TAC and usually within about 1/2 gr of what my favorite load for 335 was. Another plus is TAC is usually a little cheaper.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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TAC
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Has anyone ran TAC with the 75gr Amax in a 223 AI? How'd it do?
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Hmm.... Sounds like I need to switch. Now what am I going to do with that 4 pounds of H335 I've still got 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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What's the price differnece between the two?????
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Hmm.... Sounds like I need to switch. Now what am I going to do with that 4 pounds of H335 I've still got OK..I'll play...send it to me...I use them both! 
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Hmm.... Sounds like I need to switch. Now what am I going to do with that 4 pounds of H335 I've still got It's not like 335 is poison.. Shoot it up and then move on to TAC.
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Hmm.... Sounds like I need to switch. Now what am I going to do with that 4 pounds of H335 I've still got It's not like 335 is poison.. Shoot it up and then move on to TAC. That's kind of what I was thinking
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Nooooo...he's wrong...it IS poison, send it to me....I have a Biohazard suit I could handle it in.... 
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Carhartt makes those now, huh?....
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Yup!
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Up hills slow,
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Has anyone ran TAC with the 75gr Amax in a 223 AI? How'd it do? In my 22 1/2", 8 twist rifle using WW brass, CCI400's and sans moly I got the following: 25.5 = 2970 fps 26.0 = 3020 fps and stupid small groups, as in 0.4" or so at 100 yards. 26.5 = 3090 fps but groups were a bit larger and pressures had to be getting up. With the 26.0 grain load, primer pockets lasted forever so I called it load complete. That load, in your rifle, may of course blow your ass up so be sure to work up!
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Where is the best place to buy TAC? Can't get it locally.
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