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#5258914 - 05/21/11 09:39 AM Massey Ferguson Diesel 165 Power Steering Help?
rost495 Offline
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I have the original book, but its just maintenance and use mostly.

All of a sudden both of my front tires start wobbling really bad at decent speed. High range 1st is ok, but above that they get crazy.

I can't really tell any slack in the tie rods... but maybe a hair up where the pump is.

I may be a bit low on fluid which I'll check in the AM. But did just read the book, grandpa is dead a long time and he always just told us to use hydraulic fluid in the PS pump. Finally cleaning out his stuff from a cabinet last year, I find the book, and read it today looking for help and it says Type A auto tranny fluid...

Thanks for any input, I"m off to be best man in my nephews wedding in a bit so wont' get to read/respond till Sunday.

Thanks, Jeff
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#5259095 - 05/21/11 10:40 AM Re: Massey Ferguson Diesel 165 Power Steering Help? [Re: rost495]
milespatton Offline
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I have a Massey 150 and type A is what it uses too. I get it at the dollar store. Turn the wheels all the way to the left and fill up the reservoir. I've never had that happen but if the tie rod ends are good, that is most likely the problem. I just overhauled the hydraulic pump on mine and am putting it back together. All I lack is tightening up a couple of bolts and filling it up, then see if it works. miles
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#5259105 - 05/21/11 10:47 AM Re: Massey Ferguson Diesel 165 Power Steering Help? [Re: milespatton]
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You most likely will need to turn the wheels to the right on the 165. I was just checking my book and it says that the cylinder is reversed from the 150. It also says that shimmy could be caused by an improperly adjusted sensitivity screw or wear in steering linkage. miles
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#5260732 - 05/21/11 10:17 PM Re: Massey Ferguson Diesel 165 Power Steering Help? [Re: milespatton]
rost495 Offline
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There is a screw back end of that hydraulic cylinder. It has play in it but I have no idea if its something that needs to be touched or what to do to do it right....

Will check levels in the AM and maybe mess with that screw if I have time.

Have 5 post holes to dig but that could be done without driving the tractor at morethan idle speed....
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#5260945 - 05/22/11 05:26 AM Re: Massey Ferguson Diesel 165 Power Steering Help? [Re: rost495]
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Here is a scan out of my book that may help. If you need anything else scanned just holler. miles

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#5260950 - 05/22/11 05:31 AM Re: Massey Ferguson Diesel 165 Power Steering Help? [Re: milespatton]
rost495 Offline
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that might tell me all I need to know. I'll let you know once i've had a chance to try it.
THANKS.

Were did you get a book thats detailed like that?

I need the right brake worked on.... and the diff lock is horribly stiff..... and the diesel fuel pump has a minor drip when it sits..... I could do a lot of that if I had a clue where to get a repair manual..

Thanks< Jeff
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#5260966 - 05/22/11 05:41 AM Re: Massey Ferguson Diesel 165 Power Steering Help? [Re: rost495]
milespatton Offline
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Loc: Arkansas
I ordered it from somewhere and I don't recall. I will look at a couple of places and see if I can find it. miles
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#5260984 - 05/22/11 05:48 AM Re: Massey Ferguson Diesel 165 Power Steering Help? [Re: milespatton]
milespatton Offline
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Loc: Arkansas
Here is a link to one but you might find it cheaper elsewhere. The one I have is the middle one. miles

shop manual
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#5260992 - 05/22/11 05:53 AM Re: Massey Ferguson Diesel 165 Power Steering Help? [Re: milespatton]
milespatton Offline
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Registered: 08/31/02
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Loc: Arkansas
Here is one cheaper at Amazon. Tractor Supply has them too. miles

Manual #2
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#5261483 - 05/22/11 09:10 AM Re: Massey Ferguson Diesel 165 Power Steering Help? [Re: milespatton]
dennisinaz Offline
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I had a 165 at one time, you might toe it in just a touch and see if that stops the problem if the fluid doesn't. It really doesn't matter much what you use as long as it ALL you use. You can drain/flush and just use 20 wt hydro oil but it is better not to mix ATF and Hydro.

A couple of the bigger construction outfits here use NOTHING but 10X40 oil in EVERYTHING. They use it in hyraulics, PS, engine crankcases and auto trannies on heavy equipment. They feel that it is better than having someone add the wrong stuff...
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