Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 300 Win Mag - fact or fallacy???

Geez, Uncle Sam uses the 300 Win Mag as one of the calibers in the sniper/SOG arsenal, Recently ordered a bunch more to be built. THe 300WM is continuing to build its reputation for LONG range accuracy in the sand box alongside the 338L and 50BMG.

Bigger question- is there any cartridge inherintly inaccurate?

The obvious...any caliber that's spent time in sniper specific usage can't be inaccurate. It's simply definitional.

Is there any chance this person is trying to talk the other out of the .300 for other reasons? Does he think the .300 is too much for the other to handle? Perhaps trying to sell him a different rifle of his own?

Upshot; maybe there are reasons this person has to hedge the truth a bit but there's no getting around the fact that any statement about .300's being inaccurate "just 'cause" is patently and demonstrably false.

Some of the guys that build accurate rifles will tell you that there are some calibers that are far more challenging than others. Further believe that there are calibers that certain riflemakers won't accept an order to build as their experience has shown that it takes to many hours & barrels to finally get the high performance their reputation demands.
J Barsness wrote a pretty good story interviewing Malcom Forbes, D"Arcy Echols and some others about this question.

The gunsmiths statement is the only thing inaccurate!

BS, just take a look at BR records. The 300WM hangs right with many other big 300s in long range matches.

I have a 300WM in the safe right now that shoots so-so. Kept coming back to this particular load in development. Luckily still have about 600 Mks from that lot and 6-7lbs or so H4831 from that lot. Maybe just a fluke and your buddy is right :


loder

I used to load for a friend's 300 Win. and it was more accurate at longer ranges than any of my own rifles.

The 300 Win Mags that I've been around have shot very well.
Here is a couple of targets from my 300 Win. This is a representation of the acuracy I get with mine.

The .300 Win Mag is an inherently accurate caliber, as demonstrated by posters on this thread. The move to 6.5-284 and other lighter calibers by LR target shooters wasn't because the .300 Win Mag wasn't accurate, they were simply looking for a target round with equivalent accuracy and less recoil. That's not an issue with hunters, but target shooter shoot a lot of rounds during a match.

I have a number of fine rifles. If I was limited to only one, it would be my .300 Win Mag, Ed Brown Damara. It weighs less than 7#'s and shoots sub-MOA. The .300 Win Mag, IMHO, is one of the most useful hunting rounds, period. It can be loaded to take just about any game on this continent and most game animals on other continents. There aren't many ctgs. more flexible and adaptable than the .300 Win Mag. And regarding accuracy, it can hold its own with anything in its class.

The 300 Winny is my first and only magnum cartridge. I shoot it out of a 700P and I reload for it. This is one of the most accurate rifles I own and relaoding is as easy as any other bottle necked cartridge. I have had zero problems with it.

I've read some stuff like that, and IIRC the 300 Win. magnum is one the builders like to use because it's pretty easy to get working well.

Last fall, just before elk season, I took my Ruger MKII "boat paddle" .300WM and MKII .30-06 �boat paddle� to the range for a final check before the elk hunt. During that session I used took 5 shots at clay pigeons at 600 yards, 3 shots with one rifle and 2 with the other. Misses were not by enough to matter with either rifle and each scored a hit.


Here is a target shot with the .300WM, first shot from a clean bore. As you can see, accuracy sux.

I read that Kenny Jarret would always recommend the .300 Win. as a good bet to get an accurate rifle with a factory round. Might even be his favorite factory round as all the other favorites are AI's or his own line.

My own is absolutely boring in it's regularity I have yet to find a bad load for it. Just use any of the recommended powders run up to near maximum and your done with load development. Usually easy to get two different bullets to the same point of aim with minor tweaking.

Something fishy was up with the BR guy.

He probably just didn't like magnums going off next to his ear.

There are some that are easier to work with than others, that's for sure. "Inherently inaccurate" may be problematical to define, as most any round could theoretically be made to shoot pretty well. Some just seem less finicky than others, and the .300 Win Mag would definitely be on that list. Of course, we're talking quality barrels, good equipment, etc...

DF

This is my friends Model 70 built in 1965 with factory ammo that I shot at 100 yards. This is 3 shots. Also I believe that the Secret Service snipers use a 300 wm.



Corey

Hey Corey ...you missed with all three shots!!!

Yeah,-the-thing-missing-is-the-triangular-group-inside-the-center-at-12,4,and-8-oclock.-Then-you-could-comment-on-how-much-better-that-was.(Happens-to-me-all-the-time..........dang-space-bar-needs-to-be-cleaned-or-something.)

Gentleman,
many thanks for the great feedback and I do thing that someone is blowing in someones azz!! Either the Bechrest guy is or my friend is making an excuse !!
Went and got a hair cut last night and my barber (who has a real neat 300 Win Mag) laughed when i told him this. I have fired his gun and CAN vouch that its accurate. His gun can put 5 shots into an inch at 100m - easy - and I have seen him do it too.

I personally have a 30-06 as my 30 calibre rifle and find it fulfills all my requirements. I am not one to bag any calibre.

Thanks to all who posted.

Gus

I shot a 3" 3 shot group at 1000 yards this morning with a TRG42 in 300 win. Nothing wrong with this caliber.