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#5409858 - 07/11/11 03:15 AM Re: Ok, .243 on moose [Re: ironbender]
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My wife shot her first moose with a 243 in a NEF single shot with a 90 grain Barnes X bullet and H414 powder. It didn't drop at the shot, and often they don't.



She wanted more gun for her next one, and she stole my 30-06 and we had the stock shortened to fit her.



An uncle in BC has a couple daughters, a wife and some daughters in law, and they all use the 243 for moose, and very effectively, BUT,

. . . . . . if your son shoots the Swede well, that is a much better option than the 243. Lots of moose get killed with the 6.5 X 55 around these parts. I might go with a 140 grainer.
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#5410321 - 07/11/11 07:23 AM Re: Ok, .243 on moose [Re: the_shootist]
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Out of all the posts only two people have shot moose with a
243, they seemed to do OK.

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#5410738 - 07/11/11 09:29 AM Re: Ok, .243 on moose [Re: hawkins]
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Let me help you a bit with your assumption...

Originally Posted By: hawkins
Out of all the posts only two people have admitted they shot moose with a
243, they seemed to do OK.


The 223 has also worked quite well at times, but that doesn't mean it's something I'd encourage. It's really not much fun to try to sort out the brown forms for a second shot when you've just shot one out of several, and they decide to move out. Perhaps it's just when and where we hunt, but we often see them in pairs, or better, nearly as often as alone. Moose can be stout obstacles for even the best bullets and better suited calibers. Focus on making a well-prepared shooter, and you won't be disappointed.
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#5412072 - 07/11/11 04:34 PM Re: Ok, .243 on moose [Re: croldfort]
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Originally Posted By: croldfort
I always get into trouble on the .243/big game posts. Anywhere from 6 to 20 folks for lunch and dinner. It's a bummer to be sitting after dark and having munchies and cold drinks, when someone comes in with a tracking job. Stuff happens and folks bite the bullet and volunteer. But this happens more with the .24 calibers, (smallest legal), than all the other cartridges used.



Let me be the first laugh You are blaming the cartridge for poor shooting and poor bullet selection. I think it would be wise to educate your fellow room mates as too what bullets they should be shooting in their .243's and to actually PRACTICE shooting their .243's.

I can't even count how many deer my family has killed with the .243. NOTHING gets away, no tracking, dead right there. All we have shot are 100 grain Hornady flat base spire points. Some of the hits weren't perfect, but the deer (many large bucks) were dead in their tracks.

I would be willing to bet that your "gang" aren't even sighting in their rifles with their hunting ammo or they are hunting with varmint bullets. Put the .243 in the hands of ANYONE that can shoot worth two short hoots and even the biggest animals die very quickly. The cartridge isn't the problem in your camp wink Flinch
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#5412197 - 07/11/11 05:09 PM Re: Ok, .243 on moose [Re: Flinch]
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Here's some perspective: an 85TSX from a 243 will outpenetrate a 180Corelokt from a 30-06.

Load some Barnes in the 243 and go hunting.

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#5412314 - 07/11/11 05:39 PM Re: Ok, .243 on moose [Re: DakotaDeer]
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243 for deer is just fine. 243 for moose is just a poor idea. There are so many better choices, they would be hard to count.... and that is only the lower recoil rounds.
Comparing an 243cal 85gr TSX against a 30 cal 180gr CL, in the hand of a kid without great deal of experience, etc., simply does not hold water in large game hunting.
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#5412514 - 07/11/11 06:37 PM Re: Ok, .243 on moose [Re: fishdog52]
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So far, there has been lots of proof that the premium bullets in the 243 kill Moose just fine, and NO proof that they don't.

Many opinions here on the subject of "cartridges," and some good suggestions have been offered.

However, I believe that the OP's question was more about "Bullet" choice (not cartridge suggestions). "If he were drawn, and decided to use his 243, which premium bullet would you recommend..?"

I have to ask "Why" it (concerning this idea that the kid shooting an already familiar rifle, that he has confidence in, as well as having already taken 3 deer with) doesn't hold water when the bullet he could use will out penetrate the "bigger" caliber's bullet.?

I'd also dare say that the 14 year old knows something about shot placement, which would make the 243 with the 85 TSX/80 TTSX stone cold deadly when shoved into the vitals of a Moose. And a lot easier to do when he's not afraid of the gun and flinching with fear when the hammer falls. It's already been stated, he is recoil sensitive.

There is a pic of a very DEAD moose at the top of page #6 that was killed with a 90 grain X bullet. As well as testimony as many others who have used and still use the 243 with good bullets to successfully take Moose.

I've seen more than a couple dead Moose, seen others kill them, and killed a few myself. No, I don't use a 243, but if that was my level of comfort, I dang sure would.

Again. Lots of proof here that the 243 works with a quality bullet, and not any proof that it doesn't.
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#5412527 - 07/11/11 06:39 PM Re: Ok, .243 on moose [Re: fishdog52]
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Originally Posted By: fishdog52

Comparing an 243cal 85gr TSX against a 30 cal 180gr CL, in the hand of a kid without great deal of experience, etc., simply does not hold water in large game hunting.


Then you havent done very many post mortems on the heels of an 85 Gr .TSX....
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#5412584 - 07/11/11 06:56 PM Re: Ok, .243 on moose [Re: ingwe]
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What gets me is how all the experience of keyboard hunting experts say you can't get a lot of things down with smaller calibers...

and then you have guys who live in places like Montana, or Rural BC, Alaska, Wyoming etc...who spend a lot of time hunting and their experiences seem to contradict, what the keyboard hunting experts present...

who'd of figured that?
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#5412594 - 07/11/11 06:59 PM Re: Ok, .243 on moose [Re: Seafire]
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Its kinda like Ive discussed some some visitors from back east...its not that we are on the High Horse or anything, we have half a dozen easily huntable species of Big Game Here, less people doing it and just plain more opportunities for trigger time. There are good seasons when we are fortunate enough to get in more experience that many guys back east get in a decade.
If you are a rifle loony, and living here, you try to maximize that potential... grin
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