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#5441046 - 07/20/11 08:04 PM Totally tubular--Savage 1914 with factory letter info
Fushigi_Ojisan Offline
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Registered: 01/23/05
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Loc: Where the B&O and Pennsylvania...
I have been looking on-and-off for a Savage 1914 to round out a collection of early 20th-century tubular magazine .22s having just missed one for sale by Griffin & Howe (yes, *that* Griffin & Howe) by mere hours. So by sheer dumb luck I found one for sale on Gunbroker, with a nice tang sight, at a price I could afford.

(auction photos)





Don't want to spam, the rest of the images are here

It does have some freckling on the barrel, some honest wear, and the all-too-typical cracks at the wrist. However, GeneB declared it to be a very good buy and that he had considered bidding on it himself--praise from Caesar!

When I got it, I function-tested it with #6 drywall *anchors* [correction] and was surprised they fed through with no problems (you are only supposed to use them as snap caps BTW). The metal issues are manageable and pretty soon I hope to have the buttstock off for repairs. In the meantime, I ordered a factory letter.

Per John Callahan, this rifle (SN 245xx) was accepted on March 31st, 1916 and shipped April 3rd, 1916 (left the factory on a Friday and shipped out on Monday). The original consignee was the Holly-Mason Hardware Company of Spokane Washington--more on them in a bit. Callahan also added a cryptic sentence: "An additional entry shows a work order #409-20 indicating that work or an accessory of unknown nature was done before shipment". My own theory is that its the Lyman S2 tang sight, which someone had shimmed with a sliver of vintage cardboard from a box of .22 shells.

The Holly-Mason Hardware store emerged with a merger of two hardware stores in Spokane Washington in 1889, and they had the first fireproof building in Spokane in 1905. In fact, the building is still there at 157 South Howard Street in downtown Spokane (originally at the corner of Howard and Railroad Streets, it looks like the latter is now and elevated rail line)



With my best Google-fu, I discovered Holly-Mason was bought out by Marshall Wells Hardware sometime during/after the Great Depression, and then the business was sold to Jensen Byrd in 1960. In 1995 they became Jensen Distribution Services and left the building. Now the building has been repurposed and preserved as a historic building.

The seller on Gunbroker is located in Wenatchee Washington, a mere 137 miles from Spokane. So I am floored that not only is the rifle in great shape for its age, but it spent the last 95 years in the same general area.

I'm going to email Jensen and see if they by chance still have the old files and ledgers, it would be awesome if they could find the sales record.


Edited by Fushigi_Ojisan (07/21/11 09:30 AM)
Edit Reason: Correcting terminology

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#5441178 - 07/20/11 08:58 PM Re: Totally tubular--Savage 1914 with factory letter info [Re: Fushigi_Ojisan]
dell Offline
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Registered: 02/04/11
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Verry cool!!! I just got a Premier. From an earlier thread it's the Mossburg, not savage, as it was avertised, but I am happy with it.

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#5441766 - 07/21/11 06:34 AM Re: Totally tubular--Savage 1914 with factory letter info [Re: dell]
gnoahhh Offline
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Like, wow man. That is so tubular!

What's this bit about #6 drywall screws? Never heard that. You alluded to using them as snap caps. Those things being as hard as, well, nails, wouldn't they be awfully hard on firing pins?
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#5442271 - 07/21/11 09:29 AM Re: Totally tubular--Savage 1914 with factory letter info [Re: gnoahhh]
Fushigi_Ojisan Offline
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First the follow-up on the company.

I received email from the Senior VP of marketing for Jensen Distribution, and he asked the longest-serving employee of 46 years (who happens to be the President of the company) about archives--nope, nothing.

In a follow-up email, he stated that they probably vacated the building before 2000.

Some clarification. I meant #6 drywall ANCHORS!



they are pretty close to the same size as a .22lr cartridge with only a slightly thicker "rim". They are far more durable than the purpose-built snap-caps

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#5442559 - 07/21/11 11:08 AM Re: Totally tubular--Savage 1914 with factory letter info [Re: Fushigi_Ojisan]
gnoahhh Offline
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Whew! Had me worried for a second! I like that idea.
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#5443074 - 07/21/11 01:54 PM Re: Totally tubular--Savage 1914 with factory letter info [Re: Fushigi_Ojisan]
Rick99 Offline

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FO, is the butt plate grooved? It the barrel crowned or flat?

Thanks for the letter info. We have little info on production dated for the early .22's.
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#5446856 - 07/22/11 03:46 PM Re: Totally tubular--Savage 1914 with factory letter info [Re: Rick99]
Fushigi_Ojisan Offline
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Registered: 01/23/05
Posts: 541
Loc: Where the B&O and Pennsylvania...
Grooved and flat





Edited by Fushigi_Ojisan (07/22/11 03:48 PM)

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#5447033 - 07/22/11 04:45 PM Re: Totally tubular--Savage 1914 with factory letter info [Re: Fushigi_Ojisan]
Dons1 Offline
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FO, I can't see the rear Bbl sight very clearly in your pics. Is it something like this'un?:

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#5447100 - 07/22/11 05:05 PM Re: Totally tubular--Savage 1914 with factory letter info [Re: Dons1]
steve99 Offline
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Registered: 07/22/04
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Loc: Eastern PA
Fushigisan,

I think you did fine on that auction.

If you are going to remove the tang sight, can you tell us if the top tang is model marked? Thanks.
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#5447304 - 07/22/11 06:14 PM Re: Totally tubular--Savage 1914 with factory letter info [Re: steve99]
GeneB Offline
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Loc: South Central Wisconsin
Remember when you go to shoot it that 1914's were "NOT DESIGNED FOR USE WITH HI-SPEED CARTRIDGES"
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