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#5548281 - 08/23/11 Best load for Omega ?
WillB Offline
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Registered: 06/22/10
Posts: 119
I have not shot my TC Omega Stainless in several years. I was shooting 777 .50 caliber pellets (three of them) with 250 grain TC Shockwaves and getting 1.5 in. groups at 100 yds. It was fine for whitetail deer in the south where I hunt. I am going to Nebraska this winter to hunt whitetails and since it has been so long since I have shot it I was wondering if I should try some new loads. They made single shot rifles primitive weapons here in MS several years ago so I am behind times on the muzzle loaders.

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#5552722 - 08/24/11 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: WillB]
Reloader7RM Offline
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Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 5863
Loc: NW La.
Will,

The best load I've come up with in my Omega has been the Barnes 250grn TMZ over 110g BH209 lit by CCI209M. That load produces submoa accuracy at 2115fps avg MV. Sighted 2" high at 100, it is 2" low at 200. The 250 SST/SW also shot well with the same charge at 2150fps avg, but didn't have near the same trajectory.

The TMZ in the yellow supplied sabot can be difficult to load in TC bores, but the Blue EZ sabot available from Barnes is very easy to load. I use the yellow due to the accuracy, but they are quite snug.

Good Luck,

loder

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#5552916 - 08/24/11 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: WillB]
dvdegeorge Offline
Campfire Kahuna

Registered: 10/29/04
Posts: 17365
Loc: Western N.Y.
120gr BH209 Hornady SST 250gr with black sabot
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#5553350 - 08/24/11 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: dvdegeorge]
WillB Offline
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Registered: 06/22/10
Posts: 119
Thanks guys! I was wondering about trying the BH powder now I am going to.

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#5554510 - 08/25/11 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: WillB]
bea175 Offline
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Registered: 02/15/02
Posts: 27794
Loc: Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA
The best and most accurate load in my Omega is Two 50gr pellets of American Pioneer Powder, Hornady 250 gr SST and the Remington 209 Muzzleloader Primer. Three shots touching at 100 yards. I wet patch in between each shot.
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#5555472 - 08/25/11 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: bea175]
LeonHitchcox Offline
Campfire Guide

Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 4079
Loc: Pikeville, TN
I use BH209 exclusively. My Sidekick likes 100 grain equivalent and my Omega likes 110 grain. Both loads under Hornady 300 grain XTPs in a Harvester Crushrib sabot. BTW, my Sidekick uses a Hubbard breechplug. Ben stopped production shortly after I got mine.

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#5555477 - 08/25/11 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: LeonHitchcox]
gunner500 Offline
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Registered: 09/08/09
Posts: 23351
Loc: Oklahoma
Mine likes 150 gns. 777 loose, and a 290 gn. Barnes sabot set off w/ a Winchester 209 primer.

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#5555829 - 08/25/11 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: gunner500]
southwind Offline
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Registered: 04/15/11
Posts: 1110
Loc: Kansas
250 TMZ over 115 grain BH209. I really like this load, it is moa in my omega and love the BH209 powder. I'm using a std federal 209 primer

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#5556283 - 08/25/11 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: southwind]
dvdegeorge Offline
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Registered: 10/29/04
Posts: 17365
Loc: Western N.Y.
Welcome to the 'Fire southwinds...good load you have there too!
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#5572823 - 08/31/11 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: dvdegeorge]
Kimber7man Offline
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Registered: 06/29/06
Posts: 10028
Loc: Indianapolis, IN
I use a 245 spitfire or a 250 TMZ, both with the blue sabot, with 105 grains loose 777 3Fg. Gets me a hair over 2,000 fps and great accuracy.

FWIW I bought a jug of 209 just haven't tried it yet...
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#5572832 - 08/31/11 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: Kimber7man]
dvdegeorge Offline
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Registered: 10/29/04
Posts: 17365
Loc: Western N.Y.
You have your huckleberry but have not ate it yet
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#5574814 - 08/31/11 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: Kimber7man]
fish head Offline
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Registered: 03/13/06
Posts: 15996
Loc: Colorado Front Range
My Omega doesn't like the blue Barnes sabots, at all, with the load I was using. However, when I shot the 250 gr Barnes TEZ using the red SST EZ sabots they shot great.

Go figure.

FWIW, I just picked up a jug of 209 to try too.

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#5579268 - 09/02/11 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: dvdegeorge]
Kimber7man Offline
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Registered: 06/29/06
Posts: 10028
Loc: Indianapolis, IN
Originally Posted By: dvdegeorge
You have your huckleberry but have not ate it yet


Gotta figure out what to do with all this 777 first...
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#5579348 - 09/02/11 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: bea175]
doctor_Encore Offline
Campfire Guide

Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 4747
Loc: west of the Chesapeake Bay
Originally Posted By: bea175
The best and most accurate load in my Omega is Two 50gr pellets of American Pioneer Powder, Hornady 250 gr SST and the Remington 209 Muzzleloader Primer. Three shots touching at 100 yards. I wet patch in between each shot.


Bob

You would wet patch, come into the 21st century with BH-209. wink

Doc

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#6164956 - 02/12/12 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: Kimber7man]
bcbz71 Offline
Member

Registered: 11/19/08
Posts: 164
Loc: Panama City, FL
I am new to ML and just purchased an Omega.

First of all, the Omega manual says not to use smokeless, but I see lots of folks are using BH209, so I guess it's safe.

Second, the Blackhorn webpage says 120 volumetric units = 84 grains and that give you 2100+ fps.

I am assuming when you ML folks say 120 grains, you are referring to volumetric units and not true weighed grains?

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#6164984 - 02/12/12 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: bcbz71]
FVA Offline
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Registered: 08/19/02
Posts: 7319
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: bcbz71


First of all, the Omega manual says not to use smokeless, but I see lots of folks are using BH209, so I guess it's safe.

BH 209 is a BP substitute, not a smokeless powder.
I was just shooting BH 209 yesterday with the wind in my face. Believe me, it still smokes and has a not unpleasant smell. As a matter of fact it took a few seconds for the smoke to clear before I could see the target through my scope to see the hit.
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#6193362 - 02/19/12 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: FVA]
bcbz71 Offline
Member

Registered: 11/19/08
Posts: 164
Loc: Panama City, FL
Well, I got my Omega in and shot the heck out of it yesterday. Got some sticker shock when buying all the supplies I needed...guess I didn't realize how expensive m/l shooting is!

Anyway, I started with 105gr of BH209 with 245 Powerbelts and 245 T/C Shockwaves(yellow sabot) set off by Winchester 209 shotshell primers. Both grouped well at 70yds.

Backed off to 100yds and upped the charge to 110gr. After getting it dialed in, I was shooting 2" groups which is probably as good as I can shoot. Shot at each of our 6" swinging metal plates at 130yd and rang them both.

Very impressed with the consistency and cleanliness of the Blackhorn powder...shot over 20x and did not clean the gun until I got home. The last shot went down the barrel just as easy as the first shot.


Edited by bcbz71 (02/20/12)

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#6193437 - 02/19/12 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: bcbz71]
hicountry Offline
Campfire Guide

Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 4126
Loc: Northern Virginia
Here is the recipe for my Omega...

First, TC bores are REAL tight, the Barnes TMZ with yellow sabots are near impossible to load, as such, not much good if you can't load them in the field, on a 20f day..

So, here is the secret sauce..Harvester crush rib sabots..

I use the black CR sabots with 250 grain Shockwaves, over 110BH209, FED 209A primers. Mid 1900's, very consistant, and shoots right at 1". The bonus is you can load them any time.

You can try those sabots with the Barnes TMZ or whatever your fav .45 cal bullet is.

With the boat tail Barnes, try the yellow CR sabots that are designed for boat tail bullets.

My Omega and my brothers Pro Hunter both shoot the Harvester crush rib sabots and various .45 cal bullets very well.

And yes, we basically toss the factory sabots that come with our bullets of choice.

Tony


Edited by hicountry (02/19/12)

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#6241892 - 03/02/12 Re: Best load for Omega ? [Re: hicountry]
Hawkeye_Reloader Offline
Campfire Regular

Registered: 02/27/12
Posts: 511
Loc: IA
Those tight fitting yellow sabots cost me the biggest buck I never shot a few years back. I loaded up 3 pellets and the TMZs one warm late fall day and flipped when my Encore shot a one moa cloverleaf. Best previously with anything was 1 1/2" at 100 yards. When winter rolled around I headed out for a shotgun hunt only to discover in very cold weather that the bullet took every bit of muscle I could muster to load. Long story shorter, I walked right into one hot doe and 7 horny bucks late in the afternoon of opening day. I had a 100 yard prone "chip shot" standing between me and a deer looking to be close to 190". My bullet hit the buck very low in the brisket and he barely bled (most likely never dying). I went to the bench the next day and YES the POI was 5" lower than it had been in mild weather.

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