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#5683691 - 10/06/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: Swampman700]
rahtreelimbs Offline
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Registered: 01/19/06
Posts: 4605
Loc: The Burgh !!!
Originally Posted By: Swampman700
Yep, that I'm always right. And, you're not experienced enough to know that.



Claiming you are always right just goes to show what a little person you are and the lack of manhood you have.


A real man owns up to his own mistakes, accepts criticism and never claims to be right all the time.


Do I possess all these..............no..............but I admit that and that is a starting point!!!
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#5689971 - 10/08/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: NH K9]
curdog4570 Offline
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Registered: 02/18/01
Posts: 16424
Loc: North texas usa
Originally Posted By: NH K9
Originally Posted By: Swampman700
I don't own a golf cart. I don't shoot from cars, trucks, carts, etc. I leave that to you guys.


Can't so much as lean a loaded firearm on a vehicle here and the other states that I hunt in. Did you steal the golf cart you azz shot that deer from or did it belong to one of your geriatric "friends"?

Laffin'

George

ETA: Sorry CD but the rain is hammering here, it's been a long few weeks at work, and I need a good laugh.


No problem .West Texas Mule Deer hunting is ALL about vehicles as a general rule :



You'll notice that the "road" ain't much!

We do plenty of walking,climbing, and glassing , but you can't even SEE a deer out on the flats unless you can get your head above the cactus and brush.
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#5695126 - 10/09/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: curdog4570]
Deerwhacker444 Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Registered: 10/05/09
Posts: 14131
Loc: OK
Have you tried the Hornady 265 JSP's.?

They shoot well out of my 444. I can sometimes get 3 under an inch and 5 will almost always go about 1.5". Plenty good for what I need.

Here's what mine likes.

Hornady Case
Remington 9 1/2 Primers
Hornady 265 JSP
42.5 gr. IMR 4198
COL 2.565
Lee Factory Crimped

These Avg 2075 from my rifle.
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#5696049 - 10/10/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: Swampman700]
Dirtfarmer Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Registered: 11/28/10
Posts: 14135
Loc: Central Louisiana
Originally Posted By: Swampman700
Yep, that I'm always right. And, you're not experienced enough to know that.


It doesn't take a world of experience to know that your ratio of right/wrong is not that high.

That's an easy diagnosis, PhD not necessary.

DF

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#5821922 - 11/18/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: curdog4570]
curdog4570 Offline
Campfire Kahuna

Registered: 02/18/01
Posts: 16424
Loc: North texas usa
I'll soon find out what the 320 CP's will do to a hog."

Still haven't shot a hog with it since we seem to have a few good bucks in my hunting pasture this year.But........ I'm tearing apart the 320 CP loads with 40 gr of 4198.

Because........

Yesterday morning my S.I.L. was complaining because he had missed a hog with his 7 Mag the day before and was concerned his scope had come un-done.The only extra rifle I had at camp was this 444 , so I told him he could use it out of a little pop-up blind I had put down on a creek crossing where there were some big deer sign.

He had barely settled in when a hot doe brought a really nice eight point to within 60 yards of the blind.He shot him in the chest and the buck just stood there,so he shot him again in the shoulder and he went down.As he was still kicking , so Jason put one in his neck.It's his best deer yet and he is excited.Probably score 125 which ain't bad for an eight point.

Not a single bullet of the three exited.

I want an exit hole on a hog and this load ain't gonna cut it.

It's kinda funny , since hogs are usually my "test medium" for deer size bullets ,but this time it worked backwards!

I'm gonna up them two grains and try for a tighter crimp,and check 'em out on a hog.
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#5823007 - 11/18/11 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: curdog4570]
Swampman700 Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Registered: 11/14/08
Posts: 11207
Originally Posted By: curdog4570
Not a single bullet of the three exited.

I want an exit hole on a hog and this load ain't gonna cut it.

It's kinda funny , since hogs are usually my "test medium" for deer size bullets ,but this time it worked backwards!

I'm gonna up them two grains and try for a tighter crimp,and check 'em out on a hog.


Pushing them faster is gonna help?
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#6226105 - 02/27/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: EvilTwin]
Seafire Offline
Campfire Kahuna

Registered: 04/21/04
Posts: 21292
Loc: Southern Oregon USA
Originally Posted By: EvilTwin
Bullets might be TOO hard. Is it microgroove?? SIZING critical for performance from microgroove barrels.
My old 1980 Model with the Micro Groove has ALWAYS been a tack driver...with whatever you feed it..

as I have seen with other 444 owners, that have poor groups...

most of the time it is the shooter, jerking when they pull the trigger, afraid of the recoil...
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I run rigs harder than you can ever dream of, and have NEVER needed to replace valve cover gaskets as a routine maintenance item. Even under severe duty schedules.. Nor has ANYONE I've ever known.

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#6226122 - 02/27/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: Swampman700]
Seafire Offline
Campfire Kahuna

Registered: 04/21/04
Posts: 21292
Loc: Southern Oregon USA
I love the 444... so I think cool!,. an 8 page thread...

instead of that, I find not 8 pages on the 444.. I find 7 pages of what an butthead a batch of people think Swampy is..

mingled with 7 pages of Swampy denying it, but providing positive proof to the contrary....

another thread wrecked... and then the wrecker denies he's a troll.... whistle
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Originally Posted By Rauncho_Bozo:

I run rigs harder than you can ever dream of, and have NEVER needed to replace valve cover gaskets as a routine maintenance item. Even under severe duty schedules.. Nor has ANYONE I've ever known.

UBER!!!




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#6245928 - 03/03/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: Seafire]
lepcur Offline
Campfire Regular

Registered: 02/07/12
Posts: 262
Loc: Ca.
Mine's the guide gun in 444 and it's my bear gun, hits where I want and does the job. I shot a buck this year at about 80 yards and went thru both shoulders.
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#6246093 - 03/03/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: FlyboyFlem]
keith Offline
Campfire Guide

Registered: 02/08/02
Posts: 4416
Originally Posted By: FlyboyFlem
You say "new" as in brand new latest production run or just a new older rifle? I had an old one in the late 70's [Micro groove] which shot very well even with cast bullets 250gr Keith to be exact.My newer one which has a Ballard barrel shoots lights out with anything I've run through it so far.Try a Hornady 265gr SP and 45 grs of 4198./.just can't believe this won't work for you.Maybe bench shooting would be a tad better and more accurate than out the window of the truck..you might try that. smile


I shot the 265's with a max load of 4198, 1 1/2" groups at 100 yards.

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#6356703 - 03/31/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: EvilTwin]
ppine Offline
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Registered: 03/26/12
Posts: 1187
Loc: Nevada
You are asking the right questions.
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#6366483 - 04/03/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: ppine]
keith Offline
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Registered: 02/08/02
Posts: 4416
Actually, I think that my marlin liked 1.0g over max load of 4198 listed in the old lyman #46 reloading manual.

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#6366609 - 04/03/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: keith]
BCSteve Offline
Campfire Regular

Registered: 07/14/04
Posts: 1431
Loc: BC, Canada
I've good luck with 46gr of H4198 and the Hornady 265gr FP and 42.5gr of the same with 300 XTP in my .444. 100yds.





Edited by BCSteve (04/03/12)

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#6379638 - 04/07/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: BCSteve]
micky Offline
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Registered: 08/31/10
Posts: 966
Loc: The Buckeye State
you ever get this thing shooting straight?
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#6380408 - 04/07/12 Re: VERY Disappointing 444 [Re: micky]
BCSteve Offline
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Registered: 07/14/04
Posts: 1431
Loc: BC, Canada
No, always 44" to the right! grin

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