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I've read that the 303 brass is very prone to head separations, but I never encountered it here. I keep my 303 rounds at 303 pressure -- if I want a 30-06, I have that covered too. 
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The brass is thinner, and for Lee Enfields at least, separations are usually the result of their longer chambers.
In theory, if Ruger kept the chambers to minimum spec, stretching shouldn't be too bad. That, and the type of lock up is different. No 1s are stronger and don't flex. That's the theory, but at the end of the day, you still have to examine the cases.
We know that they followed the original specs for the barrel. The measured land to land measurement is .313 inches. That's why I asked about the accuracy. WRT chamber length, a chamber cast would have to be made.
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Did you have any accuracy issues with your 303? What bullets did you use? I ask because of the bore diameter. JB reports that it's 0.313 inches. Those 200 gr .314 I bought from you shoot very well but I refuse to use them in practice. I need the 200 to last mr for a long time. That is unless the manufacturer is back into production. 
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Interesting. I think the long shank has something to do with that.
Have you pushed the pressure past 49k? If so, what was the result? I expect that the brass would take a beating. Probably correct regarding the long shank theory, as for pressure there were no sign of excessive pressure on the brass and I was loading a good amount of 4350. Case life is excellent with the little Ruger, much better than with my Lee Enfields. I'm still loading brass after 8 to 10 firings, trimming every 3rd sizing.
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I won't be making any bullets unless my shoulder gets better. The repetitive motion is painful. I already have arthritis there.
I'm glad to hear that the Rugers are shooting okay. I was worried at first that the barrels were oversized for the bullets. They seem to obturate just fine.
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Sorry about the shoulder Steve. I have one of those as well.
Randy
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Man! You guys with only one shoulder are something. I have two, and I can feel them both, that's how I know I got 'em. 
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Gentlemen, My suspicions are confirmed. This is "The 24 Hour Storefront Bench". Cortisone is my middle name. All kidding aside, getting older has it's down side. Still better than the other thing.
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Here in eastern Canada, I like to have one rifle to do it all generally speaking. I know it's nice to have a collection but you can only use one at a time so I have 1 really nice rifle that's my go to gun. Remington Model 7 XCR fluted 20" with McMillan Edge stock. 308 Winchester.
Not the hottest caliber on the market but versatile for all game in this area. I am a little recoil sensitive to my ex 300wsm, so the 308 is a perfect fit for me.
Gives me all the options from coyote to moose.
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The 308 Winchester is so useful for 90% of the continent. One could easily make the argument that it's all one needs - period. Hunters would be hard pressed to find another cartridge that's this good out of the box. No improvements. No unusual or difficult to find reloading equipment. The ammunition is easy to find off the shelf, if you don't reload. It's a rimless 303 British.
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Out here in BC is see alot of 300's of the various flavors.I grew up in Sask and I'd say 30/06 was king followed by the .308 and its offspring the .243
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I'm in BC and I shoot .30-30, .308 and of course .303 British (a No4mk2)
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Mykos
Welcome to the fire. I suspect your rifles have never come up short on the deer.
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Specially not when the afterburners cut in on that 308. 
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I have to get my 303 to get the afterburner effect but until I do I will limit the 303 to 1/4 mile.
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I've hunted for close to 50 years and met one guy that shoots a 30-30. 270 and 06 are probably one and two but everything from 243 to 300 Mag wouldn't be far behind.
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I truly think it makes a lot of difference depending on the terrain, vegetation etc.
In the bush a 30/30 lever still works as well as it ever did. The shelves of local stores have as many boxes of 30/30 as they do 308 and more than 7-08 or 260 which can be hard to find.
Among local long time bush hunters you will find as many 300 savage shooters as 30/30. The 270 and 30-06 are found among road hunters or slash hunters.
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Don't tell anyone, but I prefer bolt action Euro-arms to most of the stuff made in North America. If I did not have any mechanical skills at all, most of my bolt rifles would be Tikkas and/or Sakos.
I have a couple of SA made Puma Model 92s and a hodge-podge of other action types.
Since I like to tinker, I rebuild many of my rifles using new triggers, bolt handles and stocks. I like Savage or Stevens rifles because I can twist on a new barrel too.
Jerry Teo actually did my last barrel though. It's a HB Shilen 6x45mm with a Choate Ultra Varmint stock. I replaced the trigger and bolt handle a couple of years ago. It's heavier than all get out, but it's mostly for the range. I was prepping some cases for it today and am hopeful that my homemade 76 gr. bullets will group well.
WRT cartridges, the older ones work so I never bothered replacing my 30-06s, 308s, 303s, etc. with any magnums. I just don't need a 260, 7-08, etc.
What we need in Canada is a decent source of aftermarket stocks. Affordable hunting or varmint stocks that is. I've got two rifles that need replacements. Try wildcat composites out of Edmonton. And for the record I'm in central B.C. and currently use .375 Ruger, 30-06, 308, 303, 7-08, 6.5x55, 22-250, and .223. There's not a single "magnum" in my safes at this time.
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This is an interesting read.When I was stationed at Cape Christian 65-66,the Eskimos were using .243 and .270s. Hudson Bay at Clyde River had a good supply of Ammo.
The Mounties had switched from .303s to .308s.
I believe this was also the first detachment to go from dog team to Ski- doos for Patrol.
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Since the LimbSaver recoil pad as well as Remington's verson of it, recoil from 300 WSM or less especially when wearing a cold weather parka is not much of an issue.
I can shoot 40 rounds from a bench while wearing a tee shirt with a LimbSaver equipped 300 WSM and not have a sore shoulder the nest day. This was not the case with my first 270 Win back in the sixties when it did not have a recoil pad.
To the original OP a .30 cal 165 Hornady Interlock or something similar from anything between .300 Savage and .300 WSM would be about ideal. For shooting down long straight pipe line right of ways I feel speed is desired but not necessary if you've practiced at longer ranges.
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