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Wilson.........it comes with the spring & since they are targeting it to your specific model it should be OK.
You'd need to get a spring to go with the Kimber unit.
No real difference other than one comes with the spring (for extra $$) & the other does not.
If you have any issue with it, you'll be happier dealing with Wilson than you will be with Kimber.
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Wilson makes a 20 and 22 lb spring that works with the Kimber. I guess you could use a full size spring and cut coils off until it fit.
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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BTDT
I don't run any more than 20 lb in Commander sized guns, sometimes even an 18........not big on over-springing, it can create more problems than it solves.
YMMV
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If I'm not mistaken the Champion has a 23 lb from the factory.
I replace the mainspring housing today with the Ed Brown and 19 lb mainspring from Brown. I used a Titanium Cap plug. I don't like the key lock mainspring housing Springfield ships on the their 1911.
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I ordered the Wilson full length guide and spring . Will see how it works.
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If I'm not mistaken the Champion has a 23 lb from the factory.
I replace the mainspring housing today with the Ed Brown and 19 lb mainspring from Brown. I used a Titanium Cap plug. I don't like the key lock mainspring housing Springfield ships on the their 1911. The Champion with ILS uses a 30-lb main spring and an 18-lb recoil spring. Non-ILS uses a 23-lb main spring. You might be going to far with a 19-lb main spring, as it might need a heavier recoil spring to reduce rearward slide velocity, which in turn increases the slide velocity returning to battery and can beat the pistol. My preference is like MontanaMan mentioned - reduce the recoil spring weight to cut return velocity and ease manual slide handling. Adjust the rearward velocity if necessary by increasing the main spring weight and/or using a flat-bottomed firing pin stop. Some 1911 manufacturers and shooters overdo the recoil spring to cure pistol problems. I doubt that's necessary with your Champion.
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Wilson makes a 20 and 22 lb spring that works with the Kimber. I guess you could use a full size spring and cut coils off until it fit. Cutting coils off a spring will reduce its final compression weight...not a good idea to cut....as standard rule if you a 20# spring for a gvt...once you cut 4-5 coils off to make it work in a commander you will now have a 17.5-18lb spring....
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Wilson makes a 20 and 22 lb spring that works with the Kimber. I guess you could use a full size spring and cut coils off until it fit. Cutting coils off a spring will reduce its final compression weight...not a good idea to cut....as standard rule if you a 20# spring for a gvt...once you cut 4-5 coils off to make it work in a commander you will now have a 17.5-18lb spring.... Very true...........guess I should have clarified the obvious. MM
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