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Originally Posted by Dan360
All the bullet performance talk from bullets found in dead animals makes me scratch my head. I just wonder how people decimated wild game herds around the country through the 1800's and into the early 1900's with the guns and bullets they were using.



Shoot a round lead ball into an animal and you will understand real quick...not much for distance,but very nasty! shocked smile

Big thaawwaack and lots of broken stuff.... eek

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The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeSpecial
Safariman:

Give it a rest and have a scotch...in fact, pour one for me and we'll talk about the old days.

Not every bullet behaves like the last one; kind of like kids.


Fixed. I'll join you both just to listen.

I would rather two holes than one but dead is dead. I tend towards heavy for caliber bullets myself but I don't have enough kills to have my own opinion on their superiority. I also like cheap, read Hornady/Speer cup and cores. Most of the shots I have had were less than 200 yards. My 444 marlin could take care of most anything within 200 yards but we chose to have multiple calibers because we can. All this bullet talk makes me hungry.

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Perfect~!


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Wow, never thought the pics would generate this much interest!

I've killed deer with pistols, bows, shotguns, rifles, and cars, and have seen them react in a lot of different ways. I've seen them drop after being hit with #1 buck from a 16ga, yet seen them run 100+ yards after being hit through the shoulders with a 7x57 140gr Partition. I've taken deer with Core-Lokts, Ballistic Tips, Partitions, Hi Shoks, Swift A-Frames, Power Points, TBBCs, etc, and they all seem to react differently. Majority of them, specifically on shoulder hits, drop in their tracks. However, last year, I shot two bucks with a 140gr Partitions out of a 7mm-08 that both ran a minimum of 75 yards. I recovered one of those bullets, and will post a pic if I can find it. If I remember correctly, it separated from the jacket and retained about 50% of its weight.


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I used to hunt with a .308 loaded with Speer 165 Gr. RN Hot-Core bullets at about 2600 FPS . I was shooting deer high in the shoulder at this point in time . None of the deer I shot ever took another step ! The perfectly mushroomed bullet would be under the hide on the off side and both shoulders and the chest cavity would be pulp . I see nothing wrong with the animal absorbing 100% of the energy , as opposed to wasting any energy propeling the bullet out the back side and on through the woods . If Speer hadn't discontinued the 165 RN , I'd still be using it ! Guys used to say , with no exit wound they are hard to track , I didn't know why anyone would track a dead deer though ! I hunt with a .358 Win. most of the time these days , I'm getting exit wounds now , but the deer are still DRT !


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Originally Posted by safariman
Originally Posted by orion03
Looks like text book performance to me.


If your textbook is old enough. Perfect performance, 1920-1980 style.

No exit wound when using a 280 on a mere deer? Sorry, not good enough. Not even sort of.


By that reasoning, a 340 Weatherby is lacking when loaded with 225s, the Barnes mono version, on mere caribou? (We're talking <300 lb, deer-sized animals here as well.)

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I have had a number of occasions when I've found fault with Barnes monos. This example, however, has not been one of them.


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Once again someone posted good info and write up. Good gun,ammo,and performance. Thanks for sharing Jason.....anyone that has a negative comment about this bullets performance is just stupid and needs to set back and think about what's just come outa their mouth....or fingers.



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Didn't read all the post so don't know what else has been said. My reply was toward the post stating the bullet wasn't all that good because he didn't get a exit on his DEAD deer.



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I found a limited supply of 6mm TBBC (don't think they ever even cataloged that one). Hope to use them on deer with exactly the same type of performance.

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