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Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington JohnMoses #4114786 05/25/10
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GeorgiaBoy Campfire Tracker G Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,749 Georgia	Originally Posted by JohnMoses You can get more powder in the Express case than the .280 case. So it's got to be faster. The 7-06 that Dober brought up will hold more than the Express. So maybe it's the best? Close. I beleive the story was that SAAMI specs allowed the Express to run at higher pressures--to high for Remington's autoloaders. Remington reintroduced the Express as the 280 with lower SAAMI pressures offered in their auto loading rifles. GB

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Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington GeorgiaBoy #4117844 05/26/10
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runninmike Campfire Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 115 Native Montanan in TX	the .277-'06 providing smiles since '25

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington JohnMoses #4119140 05/27/10
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Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana	I'm thinking you would have received more response if this was posted in the correct forum - this question definitely belongs in "Ask the Gunwriters"... “There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.” ALDO LEOPOLD

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington Kimber7man #4119226 05/27/10
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OP JohnMoses Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 18,508 Mississippi	It was a joke. Geez.

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington JohnMoses #4119247 05/27/10
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fish head Campfire Ranger Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 17,289 I'm in Kalifornia	What about a .280 Whelen? That would be a far superior cartridge to either in the same package. DOH ! ! ! fish head

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Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington JohnMoses #4119291 05/27/10
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Klikitarik Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 17,491 Alaska - N63º, W162º	The 280, for sure....because Remington never chambered their Mountain rifles in Express. I sure wish I had bought the ADL Express I saw many moons ago in a local store though. Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington fish head #4119313 05/27/10
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Big_Redhead Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,950 Michigan	Originally Posted by fish head What about a .280 Whelen? That would be a far superior cartridge to either in the same package. DOH ! ! ! fish head Damn. Beat me to it by two posts. The 280 Whelen beats both the 280 Rem and 7mm Express Rem due to 'capacity.' Not sure which 'capacity' but I know it's betterer. A guy I know has a 280 Whelen AI. Now there's a real rifle cartridge, by golly! - Our God reigns. Harrumph!!! I often use quick reply. My posts are not directed toward any specific person unless I mention them by name.

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington Big_Redhead #4119786 05/27/10
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Tejano Campfire Tracker T Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,263 Out Yonder	7mm Express AI beats them all. The express brass has a special Venturi chamber in the neck. "When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred." Niccolo Machiavelli

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington JohnMoses #4119813 05/27/10
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muledeer Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,704 Ketchikan, AK, USA	Originally Posted by JohnMoses It was a joke. Geez. Some get the jokes, but I fear some think there is a physical difference between the .280 and the 7mm Express cases. I think it was pretty funny.. . Dennis "The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets." "If you're asking me something technical, you may be looking for My Other Brother Darrell." "It ain't foot-pounds that kills stuff -- it's broken body parts."

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington muledeer #4119998 05/27/10
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shootinurse Campfire Outfitter S Joined: May 2005 Posts: 10,445 north central PA	well, it is kinda funny but, on a more serious note: can you use 7mm bullets in the .280, or do you have to swage 'em down .004"? "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." Robert E. Howard

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Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington shootinurse #4120048 05/27/10
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rifle Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,720 now in SC	Get some class go with the 7x64.... Last edited by rifle; 05/27/10. Come on America, Athletes and actors are not heroes, only soldiers, airmen,marines and sailors get that respect�and let's add firemen and LEO's

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bcp Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,598 SW WA	7x64 = 448, which is a lot more than 280. Bruce

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington shootinurse #4120143 05/27/10
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muledeer Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,704 Ketchikan, AK, USA	.280 Remington shoots .284 diameter bullets, just like the 7x57 Mauser, .284 Winchester, 7mm Remington Mag, etc. I'm saying this on the assumption that it's a real question... . Dennis "The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets." "If you're asking me something technical, you may be looking for My Other Brother Darrell." "It ain't foot-pounds that kills stuff -- it's broken body parts."

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington muledeer #4120262 05/27/10
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shootinurse Campfire Outfitter S Joined: May 2005 Posts: 10,445 north central PA	Would I ask anything but a real question on a thread titled as it is? "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." Robert E. Howard

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington JohnMoses #4120783 05/27/10
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Bulletbutt Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,262 Between Seafire and Scott F	I rebarreled all my 7mm Express rifles to 280 Remington when ammo for the 7mm Express became too hard to find. I honestly can't see much difference, but I like the silver cases with black bullets. Last year my buddy shot his elk with his 280 Remington, using Winchester ammo and the bullet did OK, but the jacket went clear through the elk without the lead part. I told him he's just asking for problems like that when he mismatches ammo and gun brands. He's looking for someone with a 280 Winchester, to sell them some ammo cheap...19 rounds. Hope this helps. I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington JohnMoses #4120820 05/27/10
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Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana	Originally Posted by JohnMoses It was a joke. Geez. So was mine - I'm not a turd for nothing... “There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.” ALDO LEOPOLD

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington Kimber7man #4120831 05/27/10
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OP JohnMoses Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 18,508 Mississippi	I should have caught that. Touche'

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington JohnMoses #4120879 05/27/10
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Bulletbutt Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,262 Between Seafire and Scott F	And another thing: you guys could learn alot if you'd take me off ignore. I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington Bulletbutt #4120908 05/27/10
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Tom264 Campfire Ranger T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 24,851 USA	Originally Posted by Bulletbutt * You are ignoring this user * Toggle the display of this post .

Re: Which is the best? 7MM Express or the .280 Remington Tom264 #4121205 05/27/10
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Bulletbutt Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,262 Between Seafire and Scott F	My wife wants to know how to do that... I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.

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