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Excuses and Azzholes ...

This thing about 14 elk in 16 years looks like a piss-poor record considering you say you are hunting multiple licenses each year, hunting ranches with 75% and 84% success rates, while hunting guided on one of the ranches, then claiming 33 years experience and still crippling elk and leaving the landowners to ponder your mess. Moral of the story - 33 years road hunting and ranch hunting does not equal 33 years hunting experience.

You have posted this clay pigeon story dozens of times. If you insist upon NOT learning to actually hunt and can't shake your sniper envy then go to gunsite or one of the other fine schools and get professional help. Do yourself and the elk (and us) a favor and lose this DIY hillbilly sniper training fantasy.

Your fixation with Mule Deer seems to be a lame attempt to distract from your preposterous recounts of you own hunts. No one is going to waste the time to roll in the mud with you over fencelines, units hunted, locations, etc, but your story doesn't wash. It is insulting that you think that anyone can't see through that.

You clearly have very little respect for elk, landowners, for this forum, for you hunting partners, and what that really boils down to is lack of respect for yourself.

Wind drifts calculations get easier when you know how to chose the correct bullets, which you dont.
An elk is a huge target..your a crappy shooter using crappy equipment.

And you have no clue where you hit that elk. A liver hit is pretty deadly and it doesn't take that long.

Don't forget this is the same guy that fired a 280 in his 338 last fall...

Don't forget this is the same guy that fired a 280 in his 338 last fall...

Do tell.....

Takes a real idiot to pull that off..

For me, I think my 8mm Rem mag or my 338378KT is better for elk on up than any 30 caliber. Will a 30 work? Sure it will, but when the chips are down, I want more bullet weight and a larger bore.

14 elk in 16 years is a pretty good record considering I normally take only one animal regardless of how many tags I have. Last year was a case in point when I had an easy 175-ish yard shot at a cow that I turned down while working on my bull. I also generally wait until my hunting partners get their elk (or go home) before trying to take one myself. In now 34 years of hunting I've only hunted RFW ranches 5 times and over 2/3 of my elk have been taken on public property. Three Forks was guided but the ranch provides the guides for free - hunters are not allowed to wander the ranch by themselves. The Three Forks hunt accounts for one cow. None of the other hunts were guided. Overall I've taken over 20 elk and lost one with no lost deer or antelope. Some people might be ashamed of that record. I, for one, am not.

When I was road hunting in 2014 it was the only option available to me due to a bad hip that had gotten much worse after two days of hunting. If you think I'm going to apologize for that you are very much mistaken. My days of putting 35-40 miles on my legs during elk season are over, even with my new hip.




It isn't "sniper envy", I do it because it is a challenge and it helps improve my shooting skills. Very similar to when Granddad has us kids shoot the buttons off aerosol cans as kids before he would let us hunt his squirrels.



The reason you find them "preposterous" is you continually confuse and conflate the events and times in your muddled mind.

And, in case you haven't heard, Mule Deer lied.

More excuses and BS per usual.

I want to hear about the .280/.338. Sounds epic.

Here ya go. As with any CH adventure, you gotta sort through alotta key strokes before you figure out what went on

280 in a 338 story

Ironically, a copy of some sniper book can be seen in pictures of your dash in the link I posted above.

Yup. Pretty decent book, too. Learned a lot about how things operated over there (Iraq). But then I'm a history buff.

Doesn't change that Mule Deer lied.



[Edited to add...]

By the way, I have read 'American Sniper and a book on Carlos Hathcock as well. Those three books are just a few of the over 100 history books I have on my shelves, most of which deal with the wars the US has been involved in, from the Revolutionary war on.

Which has nothing to do with the fact that Mule Deer lied.

I was wrong, it wasn't just epic. It was ultra epic. What is the word to describe something like that again?.....oh yeah, "uber"!!

Yeah it's a great one!

Glad you liked it.


Mule Deer lied.

Thank you.

Mule Deer lied.

So did George Washington. That story about the cherry tree was all bullsh**. Disheartening, isn't it?

But truth is stranger than fiction and neither one could top your .280/.338 story on a good day. I especially liked the part where you explained that it wasn't the first time you'd fired a rifle with a very different cartridge than the one the rifle was chambered for, that showed a real flair for the dramatic.

I don't know about the rest of these fellas, but that right there put it over the top for me. Truly uber.

Coyote Hunter cried.