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Hey guys, any good loads appreciated. I've got 140 partitions, 160 partitions, 154 hornady interlock, 162 A-max, and a bunch of RE22 powder. What powders are you running with these bullets. Thanks......


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I,m using Rl22 in my 7mm rem mag with 160gr Accubonds or
nosler partitions. Rl25 works, I,m going to try Vith N560
next. IMR 7828SC gave High FPS but less accuracy than RL22.
H4831Sc is accurate but less speed than the others. Magpro
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Love RL22 and IMR 7828. Just fill the case til powder is halfway up the neck, then seat the boolit. Its simple�.. 1/2" load everytime whistle

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Here's my load which averages about 3060fps from a Rem 700CDL 26" bbl




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Thanks for the response guys. Very much appreciated. Dingo, have you used that 154gr. interlock on any game animal yet? Thanks...


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Glad to hear you got your rifle and are working up loads,
My 26" tubed NH Winnie doted on 68gr of Rel.25 and 160NP's


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Originally Posted by BlackDog1
Glad to hear you got your rifle and are working up loads,
My 26" tubed NH Winnie doted on 68gr of Rel.25 and 160NP's


Yep, got it and fine tuned it a little grin. It didn't need much and is working flawlessly. I'm pretty relieved and had my fingers crossed after hearing some horror stories regarding the newhaven rifles. I think this is one of ther earlier classics from what I've been told. Thanks for the info blackdog.....I think RE25 is calling my name but we'll see how she does today with a little heavier dose of RE22...


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i'm using Retumbo with my 154 interbonds. Getting 3071 average with it in my 26" Remington.
My Best Friend is using 4831sc in his 24" Ruger and getting 3026 average out of it using 154's.


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Thanks for the response guys. Very much appreciated. Dingo, have you used that 154gr. interlock on any game animal yet? Thanks...


Sure,and they perform very well.

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IMR 4350, max charge, 150 gr Nosler BT or Partitions.

Kills 'em dead, very accurate,, easy to load..


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Well this is what I got with a stiffer load of RE22 yesterday:

Book max here (actually 62.9 is max in the hornady 7th edition)
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Now, the lighter load looked more promising but I'm still only running 2800 fps with this 26" barrel with this "book max" load. Do you guys suggest crossing the line (something I never do) or switch to something like RE25? Here's the 2700 fps load which shoots much better:

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Hmmm, looks like it's a shooter, for sure....I've had better luck with RL25 and 160's, RL22 and 140's....But, it looks like you are on the right track. I'll have to chrono my loads for comparison - it'll be awhile since I finally gathered up enough parts to take it to the smith for the rebed, etc....


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BSA,

I'll relate you my experiences with something similar. I've found Hornady's 7mm RM loads w/ RL-22... well, anemic. I tried to get RL-22 to work with the 154g Interbonds. At the max load (I have 63.4g as MAX, not 62.9g but whatever) I clocked at 2,766 fps with a 24" barrel! That's pathetic! When I asked Hornady about it they replied with:

Originally Posted by Hornady Tech. Support: 3/3/2009
Actually the Interbond bullet builds the most pressure of all our bullets listed here.*
If you are not seeing pressure in your rifle it may have a longer throat. You can work up loads carefully and about 2 tenths of a grain at a time.
*This was pre-GMX, so that may not necessarily hold true today

J.B.'s "Handloads that Work" article suggested 66g of RL-22 (or just enough to hit 3,000 fps) w/ a 160g bullet.

Other loads of interest (these are from my notes, please verify independently):
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Reloder 22      56.6    63.4    Hornady #7, 154g Hornady SP @ 3.290"
Reloder 22      60.0    67.0    Lyman #49, 154g Hornady SP @ 3.290"
Reloder 22      62.0    67.9    QuickLoad, 154g Hornady SP @ 3.290"
Reloder 22      58.5    65.0    Alliant 2010, 160g Speer HC @ ?.???
Reloder 22      60.4    65.2    Sierra #5, 160g GK @ 3.245"
Reloder 22      51.0    66.0    Lyman #49, 168g Sierra @ ?.???"HPBT


So you can see, other sources list higher max charges for heavier bullets (Lyman #49 shows 66.0g for a 168g Seirra HPBT). Granted, different bullets build pressures differently. So really, it's up to you if you want to exceed Hornady's max charge and see where it gets you. I never did finish working with the Interbond & RL-22. I got good accuracy with the Hornady max load of Ramshot Magnum (72.1g) and fair velocity (2,936 fps). Though even that load I never fully fleshed out. My gun and the 154g Interbonds couldn't seem to come to an agreement on accuracy. wink

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Originally Posted by tominboise
Hmmm, looks like it's a shooter, for sure....I've had better luck with RL25 and 160's, RL22 and 140's....But, it looks like you are on the right track. I'll have to chrono my loads for comparison - it'll be awhile since I finally gathered up enough parts to take it to the smith for the rebed, etc....


I'm still curious as to how your rifle is turning out. Please post some pics and maybe start a thread when it is completed. One of the reasons I bought this 7mm is because of guys like you posting your pics and coments in that 7mm rem mag thread a while back. Still remember your pic of the yote and nice buck you took with your rifle (the twin to mine grin) and the beautiful Idaho background.


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Originally Posted by Azar
BSA,

I'll relate you my experiences with something similar. I've found Hornady's 7mm RM loads w/ RL-22... well, anemic. I tried to get RL-22 to work with the 154g Interbonds. At the max load (I have 63.4g as MAX, not 62.9g but whatever) I clocked at 2,766 fps with a 24" barrel! That's pathetic! When I asked Hornady about it they replied with:

Originally Posted by Hornady Tech. Support: 3/3/2009
Actually the Interbond bullet builds the most pressure of all our bullets listed here.*
If you are not seeing pressure in your rifle it may have a longer throat. You can work up loads carefully and about 2 tenths of a grain at a time.
*This was pre-GMX, so that may not necessarily hold true today

J.B.'s "Handloads that Work" article suggested 66g of RL-22 (or just enough to hit 3,000 fps) w/ a 160g bullet.

Other loads of interest (these are from my notes, please verify independently):
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Reloder 22      56.6    63.4    Hornady #7, 154g Hornady SP @ 3.290"
Reloder 22      60.0    67.0    Lyman #49, 154g Hornady SP @ 3.290"
Reloder 22      62.0    67.9    QuickLoad, 154g Hornady SP @ 3.290"
Reloder 22      58.5    65.0    Alliant 2010, 160g Speer HC @ ?.???
Reloder 22      60.4    65.2    Sierra #5, 160g GK @ 3.245"
Reloder 22      51.0    66.0    Lyman #49, 168g Sierra @ ?.???"HPBT


So you can see, other sources list higher max charges for heavier bullets (Lyman #49 shows 66.0g for a 168g Seirra HPBT). Granted, different bullets build pressures differently. So really, it's up to you if you want to exceed Hornady's max charge and see where it gets you. I never did finish working with the Interbond & RL-22. I got good accuracy with the Hornady max load of Ramshot Magnum (72.1g) and fair velocity (2,936 fps). Though even that load I never fully fleshed out. My gun and the 154g Interbonds couldn't seem to come to an agreement on accuracy. wink

Good luck!


Thanks, that is very informative. By the way, the max charge I listed out of the hornady manual is for the 162 gr. bullet which has a different max charge than the 154gr. interlock. However, your info is greatly appreciated. THANKS.....


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I haven't checked lately, but Sierra was showing a max charge of 65 grains RL-22 with their 160 grain, 7mm Rem mag loads. I worked up to that in a couple of different rifles, with excellent accuracy results and easily surpassing 3,000 fps.


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Originally Posted by GuyM
I haven't checked lately, but Sierra was showing a max charge of 65 grains RL-22 with their 160 grain, 7mm Rem mag loads. I worked up to that in a couple of different rifles, with excellent accuracy results and easily surpassing 3,000 fps.



Guys experience is like mine.

It is a fact of life that you cannot baby a 7mm Rem Mag and get the vlocity from it that the cartridge is capable of delivering. This does not mean that you want to do anything foolish or dangerous...simply that the loads that are max will vary rifle to rifle due to a number of factors; and to get it to potential,you might need to tweak manual loads a bit, and velocity will not show until you get near top (but not dangerous)charges.The cartridge is not really unique in this regard....300 Win Mags are very much the same, and 264's are touchier than hell near max...

Frequently, magnum cartrdiges will not show their "stuff" until max loads are approached.....for that matter, neither will standard cartridges.

I watch the chronograph carefully when working up a 7RM load,and if I get to the point with a powder that is looking too over the top,but velocity is not yet "there", I switch powders, generally going slower which generally works.But going a bit quicker has worked, too.

For example, I had one 7RM on a M70 with Krieger 9 twist and a longish throat that gave 3080-3090 with the 160 NPT and BBC. It shot very well and was well behaved summer and winter with 70 gr H4831...cases had good life and accuracy excellent.

This load is close to max with the same bullet in the 7mm Weatherby magnum (see Nosler manual),yet was perfectly fine in that 7 Rem Mag rifle and barrel,giving vels within 20 fps of what the Nosler manual states for the Weatherby...this and other rifles is the reason I say the 7mm Weatherby is nothing more than a free-bored 7 RM.

RL22 is a fine powder for the 7RM; but today with 160 gr bullets my first stop would be RL25,which has proven excellent.Next up assuming R25 did not work, would be H1000 or 7828.

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As Bob said, RL-25 will get you the velocity you seek. Even Hornady's loads w/ RL-25 should get you where you want to be. I've only tested it with the 160 PT and while it acted like it wanted to shoot at around 68.0g-68.5g I never could get the two to settle down and behave consistently.

RL-22 with 160g Sierra's & standard WLR primers played together well.
IMR 7828 SSC w/ 150g Barnes TTSX perked quite nicely.
RL-22 w/ 139g Hornady GMX shows promise.
I never finished testing the 162g BTSP w/ IMR 7828 SSC but the results so far have been ho-hum. I plan to try the 162 w/ RL-25 eventually.

I've never given H-1000 a try in the 7 RM but it's on the list of "powders of interest" along with MagPro and Retumbo.


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by GuyM
I haven't checked lately, but Sierra was showing a max charge of 65 grains RL-22 with their 160 grain, 7mm Rem mag loads. I worked up to that in a couple of different rifles, with excellent accuracy results and easily surpassing 3,000 fps.



Guys experience is like mine.

It is a fact of life that you cannot baby a 7mm Rem Mag and get the vlocity from it that the cartridge is capable of delivering. This does not mean that you want to do anything foolish or dangerous...simply that the loads that are max will vary rifle to rifle due to a number of factors; and to get it to potential,you might need to tweak manual loads a bit, and velocity will not show until you get near top (but not dangerous)charges.The cartridge is not really unique in this regard....300 Win Mags are very much the same, and 264's are touchier than hell near max...

Frequently, magnum cartrdiges will not show their "stuff" until max loads are approached.....for that matter, neither will standard cartridges.

I watch the chronograph carefully when working up a 7RM load,and if I get to the point with a powder that is looking too over the top,but velocity is not yet "there", I switch powders, generally going slower which generally works.But going a bit quicker has worked, too.

For example, I had one 7RM on a M70 with Krieger 9 twist and a longish throat that gave 3080-3090 with the 160 NPT and BBC. It shot very well and was well behaved summer and winter with 70 gr H4831...cases had good life and accuracy excellent.

This load is close to max with the same bullet in the 7mm Weatherby magnum (see Nosler manual),yet was perfectly fine in that 7 Rem Mag rifle and barrel,giving vels within 20 fps of what the Nosler manual states for the Weatherby...this and other rifles is the reason I say the 7mm Weatherby is nothing more than a free-bored 7 RM.

RL22 is a fine powder for the 7RM; but today with 160 gr bullets my first stop would be RL25,which has proven excellent.Next up assuming R25 did not work, would be H1000 or 7828.


Great advice Bob, as per usual. I just bought 2 pounds of RE25 to try out (the store I go to is discontinuing them here so I got it for $20.00/pound). I had the clerk stash a coupe more for me incase I like it blush. Just don't tell anyone grin. One thing I noticed (that I like) is that charges with RE25 fill the case better (more load density) say 95% as compared to RE22 which is running around 80%. I'm curious to see how the rifle will do with the new powder. Does anyone know how temp sensitive RE25 is? I wish I could take another day off of work to go and shoot/play blush grin....


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