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Originally Posted by JohnMoses
If they were still made in Belgium, I guess most of us would be satisfied, but having them made here would be great.

There are still hard feelings regarding Japan and the role they played in the Big One. There mistreatment of POW's is my main hang up.

Even though the Japanese do good work, I'm not fond of them being made there for this reason.

I guess that we all carry some resentment for them regarding that. I do.

What I find ironic is that we are proud to own fine German rifles and especially optics.

The Nazi's were just as bad, if not worse, but they didn't have the reputation for mistreating American POW's like the Japanese did.

They just murdered 6 million jews and countless others...

My question is, how long do you carry a grudge against a former enemy who has since been a strong ally?


Some wise & well spoken words there John.

The Japs were cruel to the Aussie POW too. My motto is. Don't let the past become the future. And don't think about yesterday or tomorrow, just the now....

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Originally Posted by 340Wby
Originally Posted by JohnMoses
If they were still made in Belgium, I guess most of us would be satisfied, but having them made here would be great.

There are still hard feelings regarding Japan and the role they played in the Big One. There mistreatment of POW's is my main hang up.

Even though the Japanese do good work, I'm not fond of them being made there for this reason.

I guess that we all carry some resentment for them regarding that. I do.

What I find ironic is that we are proud to own fine German rifles and especially optics.

The Nazi's were just as bad, if not worse, but they didn't have the reputation for mistreating American POW's like the Japanese did.

They just murdered 6 million jews and countless others...

My question is, how long do you carry a grudge against a former enemy who has since been a strong ally?
Some wise & well spoken words there John.

The Japs were cruel to the Aussie POW too. My motto is. Don't let the past become the future. And don't think about yesterday or tomorrow, just the now....
The main hangup many people have is good, old-fashioned RACISM. Japanese just look different, but no one wants to admit that they might have some kind of ethnocentric and xenophobic shortcoming. Oh no, they're "better" than that. So now they have a problem with the Japanese acting like barbarians during WWII.

How well were American Indian tribes treated throughout the 18th, 19th, and a good part of the 20th century? I'm guessing everyone will harbor the same mock outrage against the various atrocities committed against these native peoples as exacted upon them by the British and U.S. governments, will they not? Yes? No?

How well were the Congolese treated by the vaunted and magnanimous Belgians? Oh, that's right, they were just uncivilized black folks.

And what about the atrocities committed upon the Ethiopians by the fascist Italians? I guess there's going to be a long line of people lining up to boycott Beretta and Benelli because the Italians got away with unspeakable cruelty.

Exactly where does it end? You're just going to have hard feelings against the people who look different than you?


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Well - that sums it up. "Why no love for Browning bolt rifles?" Because it has brown in the name... laugh


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Why no love for Browning bolt rifles? Anymore ideas?


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Love everyone I ever had, they all shot lights out. My 375 H&H SS stalker has been rained on, snowed on, etc, in our balmy Montana without issue. As far as where there made, I really don't care. Howa is made in Japan and there seems to be more and more people shooting them. As I recall, I believe the model 70 was made in Japan at one time as well. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Browning if the price and caliber were right.

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