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Originally Posted by boatanchor
Originally Posted by Magnumdood
I don't know Mr. Coleman or Mr. Dowling personally, but I do know them by reputation,


MagnumVagina,
I guess this goes for Gordy Gritters too ???????
Funny how you like to ride other's reputation's instead of having experience of your own.


Butt-auger,

I know Gordy quite well, but, that's not the point. I'm not a gunsmith and I never claimed to be a gunsmith.

Nor do I earn my living shooting as does John Burns. Very few people actually earn a paycheck shooting. Go ahead, name a couple of dozen folks who earn their paycheck doing nothing but shooting. Hell, name a dozen if you can.

Finally, stfu, Tanner doesn't need you crapping on his thread. Start another thread about me if you wish. Man, you've probably licked a groove in the window on your seat in the short bus.

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C'mon fellas play nice, if you wanna talk shizzle go to the optics forum wink

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My apologies Tanner. I probably should have put him on ignore to begin with rather than reply to his nonsense. He's on ignore now. Again, my apologies for contributing to crapping on your thread.

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Just playin around smile I never mind a little debate

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That wasn't debate.

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So, did'ja shoot it today ??


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TannerGun,
Sorry for "crapping on your thread",I was just trying to point out how magnumvagina work's. she does not mind sticking her nose in and crapping on anyone's thread, but do that to her and she acts like a little girl (hence the moniker)and puts you on ignore.

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Nrut, I didn't get a chance to shoot it yesterday- it didn't stop dumping all day and there wasn't much visibility beyond about 150 yards, so stretching it out would've been impossible. I'll play hookie this week and go air it out.

boatanchor- I don't really pay too much attention to stuff like that, and I'm thinking if you have the time to follow somebody around on an internet forum and berate them, then you need to pick up an extra hobby or something...

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Well TannerGun I am looking forward to your range report with 105's as I snagged a new SS 700SPS take off barrel on the 6th..

I won't have mine up and running until early summer at the earliest..
Gona be fun though! grin


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It shot under an inch with 2 different charges of H4350 at 100 yds... But I'm looking for better!

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Tanner,

Are you going to coat the bore with DBC? I coated my 30-378 and it eliminated copper fouling, even when using copper solids like the Barnes TTSX.

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Probably not... unless I can get it clean down to bare metal, it won't work. I'll probably just hone on it a bit with Jb's and shoot the beans out of it. If I get a chance to after school, that is.

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Getting down to bare metal shouldn't be that hard. It's never been fired, right?

Even if it has been fired a lot, you can use some Hopped #9 to get the powder fouling out, WipeOut to get the copper out, and then a patch wrapped around a brush, smeared in JB Bore paste to get every last bit of fouling out of the barrel. Rinse with Hoppes, and you should be GTG.

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Jordan this is the weirdest damn thing I've seen. I'll push a few patches soaked in Butches down it to get the bore wet, and then brush. The next patch after brushing will be FILTHY. I haven't gotten a clean patch after brushing and I've done this process at least 20 times, with 2 different brushes.

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That's because unless you have a really smooth barrel, patching isn't going to get everything out. So the brush knocks some fouling loose.

BTW, are you cleaning the brushes between uses?

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If the barrel has never been fired, forget the brush. I would guess that you're just seeing colouration on your patches because either Butch's is reacting with the bronze brush, or else the brush is scraping a slight bit of the barrel steel away, which is wiped out with the patch.

mathman also makes a good point. If you're not cleaning the brushes between uses, you're just smearing the same crap back in the barrel for the patch to pick up.

Use Hoppes #9 with half a dozen patches, use the patch wrapped around the brush with JB paste for 30 strokes (use a bore guide!), one or two patches with Hoppes to rinse out the JB paste, then use 10-12 patches with Butch's. Should be down to bare metal at that point.

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I'd skip the Hoppe's. Butch's is better at removing everything.

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I recommend trying Retumbo with the 105 A-max. I have a couple of 243's that love that combo. Retumbo gives a little more speed than H4350 with a little less pressure. Might be worth a try. T.S.

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Bowman, how'd your balloon shooting go? What speeds did you see?

I think that I may just run a bunch of Butches down it, Jb it, clean it out and call it butter!

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First round went well and I can definetly see a difference in the 105's over the 87gr V-max, mainly in wind drift. I got 3011fps for five shots in a 24" barrel savage, which I thought was about right. A lot of people don't understand that the 243 will get out to 1000 quite well and with basically no recoil. Good luck with your setup. T.S.

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