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#6077381 - 01/22/12 09:03 AM Pre- Lee shotshell loader
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Was cleaning out and organizing drawers and cabinets in the man cave this morning and forgot I had this. Grandpa's shotshell roll crimp tool and primer tool.

I am sure most of us are too young to have used such tools. grin
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#6077487 - 01/22/12 09:19 AM Re: Pre- Lee shotshell loader [Re: roundoak]
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cool never seen them before.i am definately too young to have used them tools
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#6077519 - 01/22/12 09:26 AM Re: Pre- Lee shotshell loader [Re: fat_daddy]
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Way COOL Roundoak and priceless. Makes a guy want to break out the Feltan Bluestreak wads,nitro cards, old paper roll crimp hulls,Herco, and chilled 6's for some tight choke spreader loads on the old double gun. I still put some of the old loads together occ. just to experience in some period shotguns. Magnum Man


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#6077628 - 01/22/12 09:48 AM Re: Pre- Lee shotshell loader [Re: Magnum_Man]
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You are really serious about this retro stuff.
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#6084472 - 01/23/12 07:20 PM Re: Pre- Lee shotshell loader [Re: roundoak]
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Yeah well, those of us who own and shoot 7x57's are serious shooters you know? Magnum Man

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#6123820 - 02/02/12 09:00 AM Re: Pre- Lee shotshell loader [Re: Magnum_Man]
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I have a set of these, with some additional tools, that were my Greatgrandad's. He used them to load for his old Elsie. I started reloading with them, until I got a Lee Loader, and eventually a Mec. One quickly learned lesson. That priming tool is made for brass cases. If you use it to prime cardboard or plastic shotshell cases, you will dish the case head. When you fire that load, the unsupported primer will back out, and the case will move down the barrel and be stuck partway down the bore. You have to pound pretty hard on pieces of dowel rod to get it out. Note, the use of the word pieces. Otherwise, they make good loads. I still use it to load my roll crimped black powder shells.
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#6131143 - 02/04/12 03:25 AM Re: Pre- Lee shotshell loader [Re: Blackfly1]
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Anything done the old way is just cool.
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#6134891 - 02/05/12 03:21 AM Re: Pre- Lee shotshell loader [Re: sharps4590]
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I am sure most of us are too young to have used such tools


Heh. Most of ya. I have a couple of sets as pictured and use them fairly regularly. Not for Trap loads....I have MECs for that but for roll crimped hunting loads or the occasional set of roll crimped paper hulls for Trap singles, that roll crimp tool cannot be be beat. It is faster and makes a better crimp than any of the modern drill press roll crimpers.
Here's a couple of pics, slugs and paper hulls:

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#6137074 - 02/05/12 03:04 PM Re: Pre- Lee shotshell loader [Re: PeteD]
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Nice looking reloads there.

I put Granddad's tools back in the box and stored them. After seeing your pics I changed my mind and going to roll some in the next couple of days.

Blackfly stated the priming tool is for brass cases and there can be trouble with paper or plastic hulls. Did you prime the cases with an old school priming tool?

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#6138809 - 02/06/12 04:35 AM Re: Pre- Lee shotshell loader [Re: roundoak]
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Blackfly is correct. The tool that you have is for pressing large pistol primers into brass cases like the current Magtech/CBC hulls. If used to seat 209 primers, the smallish pin on the tool pushes the primer part further into its battery cup as the whole thing is seated and you will not get reliable (or any) ignition when loaded into a gun as the primer may be too far from the firing pin to get a reliable hit.
The solution is effective but very slow - maybe you can improve upon it. I take a dime and place it between the pin of the tool and the 209 primer. The dime covers the primer and pushes it in undamaged.


Edited by PeteD (02/06/12 04:37 AM)
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