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Does the VX6 have better optics than the VX3 or swaro Z3?

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noone knows because the very very few have got their hands on a vx6, for some reason leupold has been very slow at getting them to the public.

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Welcome -

Personal impression only.

Check out :

http://www.opticstalk.com/topic31503_page1.html

I opted for a Z3 3-10 over a VX3 or VX6 myself.

The marketing says the VX6 has "Quantum Optical System w/Xtended Twilight System: Carefully selected and ground lead-free lenses, featuring Xtended Twilight coatings, are precisely positioned in optimum relationship to each other to produce the highest level of light transmission and optical clarity.", a 30mm tube, newer adjustments, and a faster adjustable eye focus. The Luepolds do come with a CDS dial free, which sound great, but I'd never use them (there is value ($) in them though) and a free gift right now like a boresighter. Net-net: a really good deal.

Priced almost the same, the 2-12 VX6 is about 5oz heavier than the Z3 - so I opted for lighter weight and thought the Z3 was more clear. I could not try the VX6 1x6x24 which may have been a keeper although I wanted the mag on the higher end myself, an I'm very happy with the Z3.

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Originally Posted by 1pika
Does the VX6 have better optics than the VX3 or swaro Z3?


I just had a friend here at the campfire do a coparison between my VX6, Z3, Conquest, Kahles, and a Diavari. I asked him earlier if it was Ok to copy and paste his personal analysis, so I'll give you the highlights......in his words


"Just a quick report/observation.

None of the scopes were attached to a rifle. Stacked two at a time on a tripod. Viewed my electric meter on pole at 80 yards.

Zeiss Victory Diavari

Easily apparent that the Diavari is optically superior to the VX6. Whether it's worth twice the price of the VX6.... no way! I got my two 2.5-10x42mm Diavari's for under 1200, so for a 200-300 difference I'd choose the Diavari as I prefer the clarity, brightness, resolution, and reticle.

Swarovski Z3 3-10x42mm

My oldest boy and I went back and forth with this scope and VX6 for a good 30 minutes. The Swaro is brighter and resolves a tad better.

Zeiss Conquest 3-9x42mm

VX6 edges the Conquest out. VX6 is brighter and resolution and clarity is just a tad better.

VX6 does however have the best FOV over all the scopes viewed. Eye relief and eye box (even non-rifle mounted on tripod) was noticeably better."

He then decided to keep it a little longer, mount it, and do some low light testing........he had this to say after that:

"I'm going to hang a wt deer mount out in the woods on a tree, and use it as my control/baseline for the testing. The area I hunt is thick with Oak, Hickory, and Blackjack trees. The 30 minutes after legal sunset should prove to be practical test.

The scopes I'm going to test against the VX6:

Zeiss Victory Diavari 2.5-10x42mm
Schmidt and Bender Klassic 3-12x42mm
Swarovski Z3 3-10x42mm
Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40mm

My Kahles CSX has a 50mm objective, so I'm not going to run it against the VX6.

OK, did a field test this late afternoon through sunset.

As previously mentioned, the Zeiss Victory Diavari is clearly optically superior. No contest, and readily apparent.

The Zeiss Conquest is clearly a step below the VX6.

So the battle was between the VX6 and the Swarovski Z3 3-10x42mm

During normal daylight, both scopes appear to be almost a draw. The Swaro did edge it out (barely), but I feel this could be subject. Really too close to call.

However, once the sun goes down, it's a different story. Testing the scopes side by side 10 minutes after legal sunset showed that the Swarovski does indeed edge out the VX6. The Swaro appears brighter, and the resolution is better.

Both my oldest son (age 16.5) and myself concur. I did not tell him my opinion and observations until after he gave me his findings to ensure he wasn't influenced by my observation.

As stated previously, the VX-6 has the most generous eye relief, eye box, and FOV. It's quite easy to get behind, and the FOV is simply wonderful.

Even though the Swarovski Z3 is optically better, one would still have no difficulty with killing game 30 minutes past sunset with the VX6."

Hopefully he will read this thread and offer his insight as well. I didn't have it in my possession very long before I sent it to him. I did compare it, although not real long and hard like I plan to, to my 44mm Conquest, my neighbors 42mm Swaro A, and my VX3 3.5-10x40. I found the optics better in the VX6 than the Conquest and VX3 (but both get me past legal light), and very, very close to the Swaro A. This is through my 51 yr old eyes, and obviously your eyes may see it differently. One thing in which there is no doubt, however, is what he touched on......the eyebox, FOV and just overall user friendliness of the VX6 is fantastic. The eye relief at higher ranges is not nearly as critical as the others. The euro focuser is great as well, and everything that is supposed to spin and twist does so very smoothly. Another thing, if you're into yardage or MOA dials, the MOA dial that comes with it pops up and down to reset the zero. The two free CDS dials you can order do not pop up and down, but are a lower profile than the VX3 version. I revolution of the dial is 20 MOA. As he also said, i find it very easy to "get behind". I'll post some more in a week or two when I get it mounted and dialed in in case someone cares. I paid $799 for my VX6, so you can decide for yourself if it's a good value or not. I personally don't buy into any manufacturers marketing hype, not swaro, leupold, zeiss, etc. I always look through them and make up my own mind and decide whether it's a keeper or not.

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JG thanks for the review I think the VX6 could become extremely popular....I see one in my future!

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I would publicly like to thank a veteran hunter, shooter, and knowledgeable guy, Fosteology, for doing the testing and all the work so far.


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Fosteology is Someone I would trust on a comparison of this nature.

Thanks for the good info JG.

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Great info, JG. This is what makes to Fire such a great experience for serious shooters and hunters.

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Thanks for the review. Does anyone have the 6's in stock yet?



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JG, would the CDS dials that fit on the VX3 scopes fit the VX6? I'd like to know. I have several dials and am about to sell a VX3 and would like to keep the dials. If they will fit, I'll order one up. Thanks

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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by 1pika
Does the VX6 have better optics than the VX3 or swaro Z3?


I just had a friend here at the campfire do a coparison between my VX6, Z3, Conquest, Kahles, and a Diavari. I asked him earlier if it was Ok to copy and paste his personal analysis, so I'll give you the highlights......in his words


"Just a quick report/observation.

None of the scopes were attached to a rifle. Stacked two at a time on a tripod. Viewed my electric meter on pole at 80 yards.

Zeiss Victory Diavari

Easily apparent that the Diavari is optically superior to the VX6. Whether it's worth twice the price of the VX6.... no way! I got my two 2.5-10x42mm Diavari's for under 1200, so for a 200-300 difference I'd choose the Diavari as I prefer the clarity, brightness, resolution, and reticle.

Swarovski Z3 3-10x42mm

My oldest boy and I went back and forth with this scope and VX6 for a good 30 minutes. The Swaro is brighter and resolves a tad better.

Zeiss Conquest 3-9x42mm

VX6 edges the Conquest out. VX6 is brighter and resolution and clarity is just a tad better.

VX6 does however have the best FOV over all the scopes viewed. Eye relief and eye box (even non-rifle mounted on tripod) was noticeably better."

He then decided to keep it a little longer, mount it, and do some low light testing........he had this to say after that:

"I'm going to hang a wt deer mount out in the woods on a tree, and use it as my control/baseline for the testing. The area I hunt is thick with Oak, Hickory, and Blackjack trees. The 30 minutes after legal sunset should prove to be practical test.

The scopes I'm going to test against the VX6:

Zeiss Victory Diavari 2.5-10x42mm
Schmidt and Bender Klassic 3-12x42mm
Swarovski Z3 3-10x42mm
Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40mm

My Kahles CSX has a 50mm objective, so I'm not going to run it against the VX6.

OK, did a field test this late afternoon through sunset.

As previously mentioned, the Zeiss Victory Diavari is clearly optically superior. No contest, and readily apparent.

The Zeiss Conquest is clearly a step below the VX6.

So the battle was between the VX6 and the Swarovski Z3 3-10x42mm

During normal daylight, both scopes appear to be almost a draw. The Swaro did edge it out (barely), but I feel this could be subject. Really too close to call.

However, once the sun goes down, it's a different story. Testing the scopes side by side 10 minutes after legal sunset showed that the Swarovski does indeed edge out the VX6. The Swaro appears brighter, and the resolution is better.

Both my oldest son (age 16.5) and myself concur. I did not tell him my opinion and observations until after he gave me his findings to ensure he wasn't influenced by my observation.

As stated previously, the VX-6 has the most generous eye relief, eye box, and FOV. It's quite easy to get behind, and the FOV is simply wonderful.

Even though the Swarovski Z3 is optically better, one would still have no difficulty with killing game 30 minutes past sunset with the VX6."

Hopefully he will read this thread and offer his insight as well. I didn't have it in my possession very long before I sent it to him. I did compare it, although not real long and hard like I plan to, to my 44mm Conquest, my neighbors 42mm Swaro A, and my VX3 3.5-10x40. I found the optics better in the VX6 than the Conquest and VX3 (but both get me past legal light), and very, very close to the Swaro A. This is through my 51 yr old eyes, and obviously your eyes may see it differently. One thing in which there is no doubt, however, is what he touched on......the eyebox, FOV and just overall user friendliness of the VX6 is fantastic. The eye relief at higher ranges is not nearly as critical as the others. The euro focuser is great as well, and everything that is supposed to spin and twist does so very smoothly. Another thing, if you're into yardage or MOA dials, the MOA dial that comes with it pops up and down to reset the zero. The two free CDS dials you can order do not pop up and down, but are a lower profile than the VX3 version. I revolution of the dial is 20 MOA. As he also said, i find it very easy to "get behind". I'll post some more in a week or two when I get it mounted and dialed in in case someone cares. I paid $799 for my VX6, so you can decide for yourself if it's a good value or not. I personally don't buy into any manufacturers marketing hype, not swaro, leupold, zeiss, etc. I always look through them and make up my own mind and decide whether it's a keeper or not.


Great review JG. Sounds like Leup has stepped to the plate. The new stock turret sounds cool too.



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Originally Posted by Ebby
JG, would the CDS dials that fit on the VX3 scopes fit the VX6? I'd like to know. I have several dials and am about to sell a VX3 and would like to keep the dials. If they will fit, I'll order one up. Thanks

Lee


Unfortunately they are not interchangeable. The stock VX6 moa turrets look like this....

[Linked Image [quote][/quote] <br><br>  <br>The VX6 CDS looks like this...please note this is a blank dial, sent to me for illustration only from a Leupy tech guy.  It is a lower profile CDS than the VX3.  <br><img src=
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Thanks JG. Of course you get 2 free with scope right?

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I'm rather impressed with Leupold's VX-6. The optics for the most part falls in line with their immediate competition. What sets this new line apart is the magnification range and again, the generous FOV, ER, and eye box.

The VX-6 cranked up to 12x has more FOV then the Swaro Z3 set at 8x.

ER on the VX-6 does indeed appear to be constant throughout the magnification range. And typical of Leupold scopes, it's quite easy to "get behind" (eye box).

I'm seriously contemplating picking up a VX-6 1-6x24mm for my .375 H&H


I look forward to reviews on tracking.


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Is a zero stop available?

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Great review,thanks very much.
I have not had my hands on a VX6,but it sounds like a very good scope for the money and I like the stock moa turret system pictured.

I can tell you that to my eyes,the Ziess Diavari is also top of the heap,followed by Schmidt and Bender.

In the next tier come my new VX3 and Ziess Conquest.

It sounds like Swaro and VX6 will fill the niche between these two levels. To my mind that makes it a really good scope for hunting in daytime conditions during legal light in most places.

I might get one for my 375 that I'm getting ready for Africa.

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Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Is a zero stop available?


Zero stop on the CDS for sure. If you want to twist the dial more than one revolution you should use the MOA dial it comes with.


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