Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 264 Win Mag vs. 270 Win.

Glad I could help you with your life altering decision.

Btw, hope you didn't think I meant grizzlies in Africa.
My wording stinks on my post....I retread it.

Now you talking tires. I don't like retreads...They crap out and litter the highways....

Laffin' stupid iPhone.

Reread

I have contemplated buying a .264 WinMag over the years but have always decided against-I've had three shoulder surgeries and am recoil sensitive. In rifles of the same weight shooting the same size bullet, the .264 WinMag recoils more than a .270. So I am stuck with my .270. I actually do most of my hunting with 6.5x55 these days. I also have no business taking a shot at any animal past 350 yards, if I want to be an ethical hunter. I will probably take a lot of grief for this statement but, I believe the vast majority of hunters have no business taking shots at big game past 350 yards.

rumor has it, had the M4 Sherman been outfitted with a 270 Winchester in lieu of the 75mm cannon, the war in Europe would have ended early in 1943... just sayin'...

I'd get the 270! That way I could do more with less. If that doesn't work then I'll break out my 280 AI. It'll smoke the 6.5 win mag something ferocious.

Shod

Ummm... How?

The 270 is another example of a company loading bullets that are light-for-caliber and claiming superiority over other rounds because the muzzle velocity is higher. This marketing ploy was used with other rounds before the 270 existed. Facts can be manipulated to make people believe things. For instance, when Remington came out with the 260, their ads stated that it retained "more game-killing momentum at [400 IIRC] yards than a 270 with 130 grain bullets." That is technically true but not many folks believed that the 260 is a better rifle than the 270.

What marketing ploys did they have going back in the early 1920's pre .270?

Thx
Dober

.277 130gr = S.D. .242
.284 140gr = S.D. .248
.308 165gr = S.D. .248

.277 140gr = S.D. .261
.284 150gr = S.D. .266
.308 180gr = S.D. .271

Yeah, that .270 is a real fuggin scam.

Laffin.

LMAO!

Yeah, the 270 is too well proven as a BG cartridge to even be mentioned in the same breath with a 260..it doesn't need a Madison Ave marketing campaign to "prove" itself.BTDT on every continent on the globe.

If it truly sucked as BG cartridge,so many experienced BG hunters would not use it. It's among a double handful of the best BG cartridges in the world,numbers and gack notwithstanding.Lots of "pet" cartridges proclaimed better are still sucking its' exhaust fumes when it comes to BG "experience".

I used only a .270 Win for many a season in Rocky Mountain states. It works. I have never had to shoot big game a second time.

When I began to understand the scientific properties of sectional density, the claim of magic in .284 caliber projectiles made sense. But in actuality, my 7MM Rem Mag doesn't kill big game any more dead than my .270 Win. Hence, a lighter & smaller rifle that killed just as dead as a heavier and harder kicking 7MM Rem Mag makes a lot of sense. But hunting rifles & cartridges ain't about sense. It's about preference. So I have to assume that what other hunters use is right for them. But dead is still dead, and ain't no big game animal is going to know what reduced it to freezer meat.

Well, the 280 AI has around 1500 ft l.bs at 800 yds with the 162 AMax.
The 264 win mag does that at around 600 yds give or take a little. .....pick your poison. I call that a spanking especially if your after elk.

Shod

Energy doesn't mean dick, so let's compare something that actually has an effect on bullet performance... Velocity at impact.

162 A-Max at 2950, 600 yards- 2,380fps

140 VLD at 3150, 600 yards- 2,540fps

I'm not seeing any spanking taking place. Unless you still want to compare 'energy', and in that case I'll bust out my cough suppressor and camo ass-wipe, too.

The 280 AI will sing to the tune of 3050 fps with the 162 A-Max and do it within Saami specs. You mind sharing your Saami specs 6.5 win mag load that pushing 3150 because I see that number closer to 3050? Its a good thing you brought your camo-ass wipe because your going to need it.

Shod

64.5 gr IMR 7828 pushes 140s to 3150 from three of my four .264s.

QL shows this below SAAMI pressure and i've worn out more than one barrel with this load

there are a few powders that should get 3200 fps from 140s. RE 33 and VV N570

QL does not show any powder that will get 3050 from 162/.280 AI @ under 60K (SAAMI)

both are worthy cartridges, but displacement comes with certain advantages

The 250-3000 Savage was created in 1915. It was loaded with light-for-caliber 87 grain bullets so the manufacturer could claim 3000 fps even though the designer, Charles Newton, recommended 100 grainers.

For over 30 yrs now my pet load for a 140 is 73.5 grs of H-570...3200 is not wishful thinking or a bogus figure out of a 26" tube.This load has never been sub MOA but always consistent in the velocity dept..on my second barrel and still my old go to.

Holy schit, keep going. You'll be "singing to the tune" of gas burns on your face, but don't say nobody told you so. Where are you getting these numbers?!