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Saami spec for the 280 AI is 65,000 K not 60,000. Where are you getting your numbers. The nosler #6 Emanuel lists a load for the 160 gr bullet in the 280 AI at 3045 fps. My numbers aren't off on the 280 AI. 26 inch tube.
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It isn't uncommon for a case of smaller capacity to give light bullets almost the same velocities we see form those bullets in case of larger capacity....this "observation" is older than the hills fi you been at this game long enough. This can lead to the erroneous conclusion among the uninitiated that a 7/08 is as fast as a 280 is as fast as a 7RM etc etc ad nauseum.What it generally ignores is that the larger case will still provide MORE velocity with the lighter bullets(even if not by much) and stick the smaller case's dick in the dirt with the heavier one's. To make up for this obvious inadequacy,fans of short cartridges having less capacity install 24"-26" barrels,feed them the lightest generally available bullet, pound on them until they scream,and use new miracle propellants that defy the laws of internal combustion... VOILA! the 7/08 is the equal of the 270.The 7/08 is a fine cartridge but seems it ends up in the hands of a too many stooges intent on making it a 280AI or 7RM....funny thing is these idiots expect us to believe this trash. Xvermin if I were you I'd stop jousting with Prairie Goat...he is too smart for you and is kicking your ass all over this thread.   Started a new thread in the reloading section for the "Doolittle Gang"...... X-VERMINATOR
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I like this thread...good fun
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Lots of fun I see, I'll be stickin with my 270 though. Its a killer no doubt, it is not a magnum and the rifles are usually lighter. Next thing we'll be comparing the 30/06 to some wanna be. 
JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H
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Saami spec for the 280 AI is 65,000 K not 60,000. Where are you getting your numbers. The nosler #6 Emanuel lists a load for the 160 gr bullet in the 280 AI at 3045 fps. My numbers aren't off on the 280 AI. 26 inch tube.
Shod So give the 264 26" like you're giving the 280AI, as per the nosler #6 "Emanuel".
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And buy a welding mask for shooting your 280 A.I.
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No sense over doing it, they make a 7 mag, STW and the Mashburn to get ya there.
JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H
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Lots of fun I see, I'll be stickin with my 270 though. Its a killer no doubt, it is not a magnum and the rifles are usually lighter. Next thing we'll be comparing the 30/06 to some wanna be. I'm glad you are "stckin" with your 270. Yours is one hell of a nice rifle. Let me have first dibs if you ever decide you want to get rid of it... 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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And buy a welding mask for shooting your 280 A.I. Better be wearing welding gloves too, just incase it decides to come apart... 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I'm pretty sure that one will get passed on when I pass on. But if I ever do I'll let ya know bsa.
JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H
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I could sure use a 375 though.......buddy
JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H
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And buy a welding mask for shooting your 280 A.I. I heard somewhere that you were even prettier than your sister Tanner. Just apply a little vagisil and you'll be surprised how quick you'll get over my comment about your 6.5 mag. Don't fret sweetie it'll be alright. Shod
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I shoot 162 A-Maxes at exactly the speeds we are talking here, bozo. I ain't stacking tables here, just staying logical and reporting numbers which seem to evade you. No "6.5 mag" is in my possession.
And I'm sorry if you're an ugly [bleep].
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I shoot 162 A-Maxes at exactly the speeds we are talking here, bozo. I ain't stacking tables here, just staying logical and reporting numbers which seem to evade you. No "6.5 mag" is in my possession.
And I'm sorry if you're an ugly [bleep]. Darling, your beginning to sound hormonal!!! Shod
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I could sure use a 375 though.......buddy
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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And buy a welding mask for shooting your 280 A.I. Better be wearing welding gloves too, just incase it decides to come apart... At first I doubted those numbers too - so I dragged out my Nosler #6 and checked.. He's right on the money.. IMHO the .264 is limited only due to the short throat; part of the design of the original chambering.. Adding a bit of throat to allow use of longer bullets or standard bullets seated longer - coupled with 26" barrels - should give much more satisfying results.. Wonder what a .264WM-AI would do?
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Redneck is on it.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I could happily run a .270.
In some alternate reality where [bleep] don't stink, trucks have 4-foot beds and say "Subaru" on them, and women are convex.
Until then I can functionally match it in a short action 7-08 without all the muss and fuss of a long-action powder slut like the.... the.... .270
Ick. I need to go pinch a waitress.
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I thought you owned a subaru Jeff.......
JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H
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I used to be of the mind-set that bigger/faster is better but over time I came to favor "nice" shooting standard cartridges a lot more. Plus, shooting a standard cartridge is always good for availability and GREAT for cost. I shoot my 270Win 10x more than I ever shot my 257wby, 300WM, 300Wby or 338WM (combined!) and that has helped me become a better shot.
What you can never see on paper is that due to all the extra shooting I do with my 270Win, I can hit targets with it that I would've missed handily with my big magnums....
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