Page 2 of 19 < 1 2 3 4 ... 18 19 >
Topic Options
#6148245 - 02/08/12 07:48 AM Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: jim62]
mtnfisher Offline
Campfire Regular

Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 763
Loc: Montana
Originally Posted By: jim62
Originally Posted By: Swampman1
The Winchester High Walls are pretty inexpensive from CDNN. The Pedersoli Sharps are very accurate, well finished, available, and less expensive.


And not a damn one of them made in the USA.

The OP obviously wants to buy a MADE IN THE USA RIFLE.

Stick your imported schit up yer azz.


Didn't see where OP stated USA rifle
_________________________
It's not that Liberals are unwilling to listen to another point of view, they are just simply amazed that another one exists.

Top
CI16728
#6148416 - 02/08/12 08:26 AM Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: BrentD]
jim62 Offline
Campfire Tracker

Registered: 12/09/04
Posts: 5978
Originally Posted By: BrentD
Originally Posted By: jim62
Originally Posted By: Swampman1
The Winchester High Walls are pretty inexpensive from CDNN. The Pedersoli Sharps are very accurate, well finished, available, and less expensive.


And not a damn one of them made in the USA.


Nice edit ---

So why did the OP want to consider Brownings?


Because apparently, he was under the mistaken impression they were equal to Shilohs and C Sharps.

It's amazing to me that anyone would even discuss a C Sharps or Shiloh in the same sentence as a Miroku made Browning. The Montana made guns are twice the rifle and much more expensive in the field grades.. And worth every penny because Americans make them.


Edited by jim62 (02/08/12 08:36 AM)
_________________________
To all gunmaker critics-
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.."- Teddy Roosevelt

Top
#6148518 - 02/08/12 08:48 AM Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: jim62]
Ranch13 Offline
Campfire Guide

Registered: 11/12/03
Posts: 3871
Loc: wyoming
The stocks on the Mirokus are American Walnut, and the barrels on the bpcr models are Badger...
_________________________
the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to.

Top
#6148550 - 02/08/12 08:55 AM Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Ranch13]
jim62 Offline
Campfire Tracker

Registered: 12/09/04
Posts: 5978
Originally Posted By: Ranch13
The stocks on the Mirokus are American Walnut, and the barrels on the bpcr models are Badger...


On rifles that the MSRP is as much as a Shiloh.

And BTW I have owned 5 Browing BPCR rifles and Badge barrels or not they would not make a zit on a Shilho's azz.

Anyone who pays $1,500+ for a Badger barreled Miroku BPCR is a damn fool.
_________________________
To all gunmaker critics-
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.."- Teddy Roosevelt

Top
#6148583 - 02/08/12 09:03 AM Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: jim62]
Ranch13 Offline
Campfire Guide

Registered: 11/12/03
Posts: 3871
Loc: wyoming
My aren't we in a good mood this morning crazy
No doubt about it, Shiloh's are the best, but when it comes to hiwalls, Shiloh is out, and Winchester is in, and the number of folks shooting out of the box Brownings and Winchesters and placing high or winning is fairly impressive.
_________________________
the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to.

Top
#6148841 - 02/08/12 10:06 AM Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Ranch13]
jim62 Offline
Campfire Tracker

Registered: 12/09/04
Posts: 5978
Originally Posted By: Ranch13
My aren't we in a good mood this morning crazy
No doubt about it, Shiloh's are the best, but when it comes to hiwalls, Shiloh is out, and Winchester is in, and the number of folks shooting out of the box Brownings and Winchesters and placing high or winning is fairly impressive.


I have felt that way about the Brownings for the last 10 years- not just this morning. Good guns, but not int he same league as an 1885 C Sharps High wall. And it's not because I did not give them a fair shot.

Actually the bigger fool is the idiot down in Texas who thought the Miroku made 1885s were worthy of an entire book. THAT is the definition of a fool.


Edited by jim62 (02/08/12 10:07 AM)
_________________________
To all gunmaker critics-
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.."- Teddy Roosevelt

Top
#6149433 - 02/08/12 12:47 PM Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: jim62]
BrentD Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 11730
Loc: MN, WI, IL, MI, KS, GA, AZ, IA
E Blair,
While little jim continues to have a bad hair day over the Miroku 1885s made first with the Browning moniker and later with the Winchester label, rest assured they are probably the most accurate bpcrs you can pull off the shelf. For certain they are not a bit less accurate than a Shiloh for instance.

Aesthetically, I find them challenging to warm up to, but they shoot extremely well. They are also remarkably reliable rifles, though the others are as well, but I think Miroku could hold a slight edge given the number of folks that have them and the very small number of complaints about them failing.

Their three biggest negatives are,
1. A less than wonderful trigger than cannot be used in "set trigger" fashion. For a small price - remarkably small actually, Lee Shaver tunes this to a very serviceable trigger suitable for the best target work

2. They are hard to take apart - or rather to reassemble once taken down. But there are tricks and jigs to make this easier.

3. Their finish does not grab me in a favorable way. But you can always refinish one if it bugs you.

In then end, master class shooters win with these rifles. They are affordable in new or used conditions and they are available. The guy that wrote the book that so bugs little jim is also very helpful with connecting people with these rifles and also often has a few to sell. He's a good guy and infinitely more friendly than little jim.

The Pedersolis are also good rifles and have a reputation for accuracy. I also don't care for their finish on metal or rifle but nothing is wrong with them and they can be match winners just as readily as a Shiloh.

I don't have anything good to say about Uberti though others like them. The one Uberti product I owned (a revolver) was mechanically poorly made that affected much more than just cosmetics.

C Sharps and Shilohs will shoot with the best, but they don't run away from a Browning/Winchester (Miroku) highwall except for when it comes to looks. In accuracy and dependability, they are AT LEAST the equal of all the rest.

Now little jim will be back with more belittling of everything and everyone, but that's just something we all have to live with.
_________________________
Save an elk, shoot a cow.

Top
#6149514 - 02/08/12 01:11 PM Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: BrentD]
BrentD Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 11730
Loc: MN, WI, IL, MI, KS, GA, AZ, IA
E Blair,
Check your PMs.

Brent
_________________________
Save an elk, shoot a cow.

Top
#6149598 - 02/08/12 01:42 PM Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: BrentD]
Paul39 Offline
Campfire Outfitter

Registered: 05/04/02
Posts: 8385
This past weekend I shot in a BPCR silhouette match with a shooter who holds a Grand Slam in that event. For those not familiar with BPCR silhouette, 10-in-a-row on the longer three targets shot from prone off cross sticks is difficult, but doable. I've done it myself, but 10-in-a-row on the chickens shot offhand is simply awesome, and accomplished by only a handful of shooters. This gent may also have won at least one national championship, but I'm not certain of that.

He shoots a Browning.

Paul
_________________________
There is something about the aging process that makes you give a crap less - Clint Eastwood.

Top
#6149694 - 02/08/12 02:09 PM Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Paul39]
crossfireoops Offline
Campfire Oracle

Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 45490
Loc: Southeastern AZ
wink grin cool
_________________________
Member, Clan of the Border Rats













Top
Page 2 of 19 < 1 2 3 4 ... 18 19 >


Moderator:  RickBin, SYSOP 
CLICK HERE for GREAT DEALS on STEINER OPTICS at CAMERA LAND!
Support Our Sponsors 1
Who's Online
283 registered (175rltw, 25classic, 1899sav, 1lesfox, 257Deland, 32 invisible), 833 Guests and 303 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Support Our Sponsors 2
Forum Stats
50846 Members
72 Forums
642675 Topics
9230199 Posts

Max Online: 4366 @ 10/05/10 09:36 AM
Support Our Sponsors 3










Copyright © 2000-2015 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.