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#6165893 - 02/12/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Kenneth]
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I just hate to see you girls lead someone astray because you're connected with the company that makes the products you push. We have enough of that here on the CVA forum. Just tell the truth and let the newbies decided for themselves. That's what I do.....A well made rifle is cool but it must shoot really well to be worth all that extra cash and the wait. Don't let the dollar signs cloud your judgement. More expensive doesn't always mean better.
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#6166011 - 02/12/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Swampman1]
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Originally Posted By: Swampman1
I just hate to see you girls lead someone astray because you're connected with the company that makes the products you push. We have enough of that here on the CVA forum. Just tell the truth and let the newbies decided for themselves. That's what I do.....A well made rifle is cool but it must shoot really well to be worth all that extra cash and the wait. Don't let the dollar signs cloud your judgement. More expensive doesn't always mean better.


Swampschit.

Nobody here has any "connection" with Shiloh or any other rifle company except that UNLIKE YOU , most posters on this thread have actually owned and shot them.I can tell you've never even held a Shiloh rifle in your hands due to the BS you spew about them.

Your total BPCR poser status has already been exposed on this thread dated two months ago-

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/5901571/Info_For_Sharps#Post5901571


Edited by jim62 (02/12/12)
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#6166142 - 02/12/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: jim62]
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Nothing there indicates my BPCR "status" because I have none (want none) nor did I imply that I did. I shoot all kinds of rifles and frequently. A BPCR is just another rifle. I've shot several Shilohs and handled a bunch more. I wish they were more accurate than the cheaper rifles.
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#6166260 - 02/12/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Swampman1]
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Originally Posted By: Swampman1
Nothing there indicates my BPCR "status"

I do agree with that statement . . . AND it shows . . . a LOT.
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#6166265 - 02/12/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Swampman1]
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Originally Posted By: Swampman1
Nothing there indicates my BPCR "status" because I have none (want none) nor did I imply that I did. I shoot all kinds of rifles and frequently. A BPCR is just another rifle. I've shot several Shilohs and handled a bunch more. I wish they were more accurate than the cheaper rifles.


I wish your posts had a shred of truth in them.
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#6166753 - 02/12/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: jim62]
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I haven't posted anything but the truth. I'm not trying to make money off the newbies.
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#6166817 - 02/12/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Swampman1]
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Originally Posted By: Swampman1
I haven't posted anything but the truth. I'm not trying to make money off the newbies.


Another delusional lie from you.

Nobody here is making one thin dime refuting your horseschit.
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#6167199 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Kurt71]
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Originally Posted By: Kurt71
I know Carmen Axtel I shot along side her several times and talked to her, she is a very pleasant likable Lady. But Brent is right about the 77. I have a friend that has one and it has been a thorn in his side since he got it and the company never stood behind it to make it right.


I have also shot along side her a couple of times and thought she was a good shot as well as interesting to talk to. The 77's were allways a problem and Brent was told that when he wanted rubberstamp approval of buying his on the Shiloh forum. Fair is fair Carmen's ok, 77's suck and Brent is still a wolf hugger as well as other less complimentary things. Magnum Man

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#6167321 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Magnum_Man]
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Originally Posted By: Magnum_Man
The 77's were allways a problem and Brent was told that when he wanted rubberstamp approval of buying his on the Shiloh forum.


You can't find that post on Shiloh now can you?

Why the lie?
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#6167464 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: jim62]
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Originally Posted By: Swampman1
I haven't posted anything but the truth. I'm not trying to make money off the newbies.


They are friendly with the company and help push their gear. That can't hurt when you need something expensive.
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#6167798 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Swampman1]
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Originally Posted By: Swampman1
Originally Posted By: Swampman1
I haven't posted anything but the truth. I'm not trying to make money off the newbies.


They are friendly with the company and help push their gear. That can't hurt when you need something expensive.


No, but what can hurt is when some new guy takes the advice of a clueless troll such as yourself..

Nobody here is "pushing" anything, just refuting the outright lies you tell about the quality rifles you cannot begin to afford.

Sawmpturd, you are a liar and an idiot.



Edited by jim62 (02/13/12)
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#6167918 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Swampman1]
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Originally Posted By: Swampman1
Originally Posted By: Swampman1
I haven't posted anything but the truth. I'm not trying to make money off the newbies.


They are friendly with the company and help push their gear. That can't hurt when you need something expensive.


The last poster was to kind,....

You're a TOXIC idiot, and would corrupt the smell of everyday sh$t.

Minute of angle ?

With that Carbine ?

Oh, I got it,.....one rageed hole at 11 feet.

Bugger off Swampy, ....just bugger the phuck off.

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#6168053 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: BrentD]
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Originally Posted By: BrentD
Originally Posted By: Magnum_Man
The 77's were allways a problem and Brent was told that when he wanted rubberstamp approval of buying his on the Shiloh forum.


You can't find that post on Shiloh now can you?
You can't find a whole lot of posts prior to May 16, 2011 anymore since they upgraded their websight and dumped alot of their archives.

Why the lie?
No lie at all, several people told you 77 Axtells had issues and did not allways get fixed to correct the problem. But you bought it anyway because like all liberals you only listen to your self and can't ever admit to making a mistake. Magnum Man

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#6168057 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: crossfireoops]
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I finally realized trying to counter the swampster's lies and exaggerations with reality just wasn't doing any good at all. Kinda like teachin' a pig to sing, ya just get frustrated and the pig enjoys it . . . and put him back on ignore. Couldn't stand reading his crap anymore.

I would suggest that for all . . .
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#6168510 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Magnum_Man]
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Originally Posted By: Magnum_Man
No lie at all, several people told you 77 Axtells had issues and did not allways get fixed to correct the problem. But you bought it anyway because like all liberals you only listen to your self and can't ever admit to making a mistake. Magnum Man


Typical typical. Anonymous [bleep] coward can't back up his words as usual.

I just searched my own posts and they go all the way back to 2004. I bought the rifle in about 2009. So, pony up - if you can. Of course that is impossible.
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#6168514 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Otter]
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Originally Posted By: Otter
I finally realized trying to counter the swampster's lies and exaggerations with reality just wasn't doing any good at all. Kinda like teachin' a pig to sing, ya just get frustrated and the pig enjoys it . . . and put him back on ignore. Couldn't stand reading his crap anymore.

I would suggest that for all . . .


Yeah, about the same for Magnum Man. He just makes up lies like Swampy. Maybe he IS Swampy
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#6168911 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: BrentD]
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Wow, I am not sure what I started here! I had been looking at the C. Sharps and the Shiloh Sharps sights and was thinking of getting a cartridge rifle to shoot at the range and maybe do some hunting with. There was a C. Sharps '74 in a local gun shop and that is about the only one I've seen, so maybe I need to get out to Big Timber and take a look at the rifles. Or get out to a BPCR shoot. Any big ones coming up on the east coast?
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#6169020 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: E Blair]
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Eblair, Ridgeway in Pennsylvania, River Bend in Georgia, Camp Atterbury in Ohio, Friendship In, and the occasional creedmoor match at Quantico.


hehe nice to see the professor getting a failing grade on his guesstimate of who magnum man is....
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#6169571 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: E Blair]
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E Blair - You didn't start anything. You asked some questions and some of us tried to give realistic and truthful responses, based on our experiences, as well as try to point you down the right path. But you are an intelligent grownup and are, hopefully grin, able to weigh everything said and make up your own mind. There are none if us here, that I am aware of anyhow, who are set to gain anything of monetary value by preferring one manufacturer of BPCR rifles over another, as one stoner has suggested. As with most things in life, there is personal preference . . . and that is all. It is true, you can buy a Pedersoli for less money than a Shiloh Sharps or C Sharps, BUT, the latter two will keep or increase their value over time and, in all probability, a Pedersoli will not - and with the prices of the Pedersolis at this time, the difference is much less than in the past. I am making that comparison based on NEW rifles, not the occassional discounted used carbine some are. I bought a new Shiloh ten years ago, I bought another last fall - the price difference was about $400 between the two. The latest one has semi-fancy wood, the first one doesn't.

Anyway, E Blair, stick around and keep asking questions. We will all try to assist in any way we can. It will, however, be up to you to sift the pepper from the flyschitt.
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#6169659 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Otter]
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EBlair,
I just got a note of a rebarreled .40-65 '74 Sharps. The barrel is a Badger put on by John King, so it is likely a very good shooter. Being an early Shiloh, it might be a bit more affordable (no price was given). Shoot me an PM if you want more details, I doubt it will last long.
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#6170161 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: BrentD]
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If you're looking for an investment, the Shilohs are great for that. If you are a shooter, one is as good as the other based on actual experience, and the experience of 20-30 local BPCR shooters. I'm not sellin' nothin.
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#6170518 - 02/13/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Swampman1]
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Originally Posted By: Swampman1
If you're looking for an investment, the Shilohs are great for that. If you are a shooter, one is as good as the other based on actual experience, and the experience of 20-30 local BPCR shooters. I'm not sellin' nothin.


Sure, you are selling something..

Your own special brand of BULLSCHIT.


Edited by jim62 (02/13/12)
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#6171619 - 02/14/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: BrentD]
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Originally Posted By: Magnum_Man
No lie at all, several people told you 77 Axtells had issues and did not allways get fixed to correct the problem. But you bought it anyway because like all liberals you only listen to your self and can't ever admit to making a mistake. Magnum Man


Typical typical. Anonymous [bleep] coward can't back up his words as usual.

I just searched my own posts and they go all the way back to 2004. I bought the rifle in about 2009. So, pony up - if you can. Of course that is impossible.


As usual Brent you can't confront the TRUTH without resorting to screaming and shouting obscenities or accusing someone of lying. Like all liberals you feel right about everything and aren't guilty of anything until caught and convicted. The problem is you have little to no credability. Just like the wolf issue you don't have them for neighbors and they are not eating your livestock or ruining your livelyhood.You just think they are needed because you want them and everybody else doesn't count. You are so used to being able to abuse your position as a Prof at IA st by shoving everything down students throats that are worried about passing your class ,you think you can do that to everyone. Trouble is I am all done at school and don't let people like you bother me anymore. If anything its kinda fun watching you come off like an imbecile.No cussing or jumping up and down,just this from the Shiloh forum by klw on the 77 Axtell Sharps

"Had one. Absolutely beautiful gun. BUT it broke every single time I shot it. Returned it four times.

After the third return I called rather upset. The owner, a man, told me that if I wanted a gun that was reliable that I shouldn't have bought one of his. His were identical to the originals and the originals have problems. I have no idea if that is true or not but I am positive that that is what he said.

Sold it. Told the buyer this story. He was buying his fourth. Loved Axtel guns. But he also said that they broke a lot. VERY FREQUENTLY!

So they break a lot. Doesn't seem to bother the owners but it sure pi@@ed me off. And the company owner could not have cared less. I believe that he is no longer with the firm. In a divorce his wife got the company.

This story was, within my experience, not unique.

Buy a Shiloh or a Pedersoli but not an Axtel!"


Choke on it Brent, magnum Man

"Well, klw, be that as it may, I'm going to take the plunge anyway. Always wanted a 77."

Brent


Edited by Magnum_Man (02/14/12)

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#6171667 - 02/14/12 Re: C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps, high wall or 1873? [Re: Magnum_Man]
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For those who need a link http://www.shilohrifle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9264

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