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#6176306 - 02/14/12 05:51 PM Re: Which Action? [Re: BobinNH]
Tom264 Offline
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Registered: 12/19/06
Posts: 21549
Loc: above you.....
Laffin'

Hey did you ever get a .264 Mag you were pondering a bit back?
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#6176384 - 02/14/12 06:06 PM Re: Which Action? [Re: StrayDog]
WyoCoyoteHunter Offline
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Registered: 02/04/11
Posts: 3149
Loc: Carbon Co. Wyoming
99, that was a sharp looking single shot in the photo..how about a bit of back ground on the rifle and scope...

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#6176469 - 02/14/12 06:21 PM Re: Which Action? [Re: WyoCoyoteHunter]
Tanner Online   content
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Registered: 02/28/11
Posts: 9892
Loc: High Country Colorado
Pat, thinking that I may have to get one of those leather cheek pads from you... they look sharp.

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#6176781 - 02/14/12 07:36 PM Re: Which Action? [Re: Tanner]
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Registered: 12/17/10
Posts: 1235
Loc: Buffalo, Wyoming
Originally Posted By: TannerGun
Pat, thinking that I may have to get one of those leather cheek pads from you... they look sharp.


yup... i think I am gonna get one of those too. grin
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#6176892 - 02/14/12 08:10 PM Re: Which Action? [Re: WyoCoyoteHunter]
Savage_99 Offline
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Registered: 09/01/03
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The rifle is a Winchester High Wall done by the late Floyd Butler of Poultney, VT.

He used a Buhmiller barrel and made the stock and all the smith work. Its chambered for the .219 Improved Zipper. The scope is a 10X Lyman Supertargetspot.

I have used the rifle for about 50 years. Back when there were lots of chucks that rifle got it's share. Most of the shooting was with that marksmans sling from prone or sitting.

Butler link

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#6176919 - 02/14/12 08:18 PM Re: Which Action? [Re: Savage_99]
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Are those cheek pads available? wink

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#6177304 - 02/15/12 12:08 AM Re: Which Action? [Re: Tom264]
BobinNH Offline
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Registered: 01/28/07
Posts: 28404
Originally Posted By: Tom264
Laffin'

Hey did you ever get a .264 Mag you were pondering a bit back?


Tom: I've had three 264's, the last about 4 years ago now.No, I haven't bought one recently.
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#6179582 - 02/15/12 02:09 PM Re: Which Action? [Re: BobinNH]
JohnBurns Offline
Campfire Guide

Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 2665
Loc: Wyoming
Bob,

If you are considering upgrading to a custom action I would recommend you check out the McMillan G30. Of all the upgrade 700 style actions this one is my favorite for a number of reasons.

1. Highest grade of materials, 17-4 PH stainless for the receiver and 9310 bolt.

2. Rear bridge is dropped down to accept all Rem 700 scope mounts. Most custom actions take the easy way out and keep the rear bridge at full diameter.


3. Large loading port gives better access to the action and makes loading and unloading surer and easier. I am not a fan of the reduced size loading ports in most custom actions as the minimal gain in stiffness is not worth the hassle of loading when I have gloves on or am in a hurry.

4. Functional bolt fluting. In my opinion fluting is done to give dirt and crap a place to go when operating under less than sterile conditions. Every other action I have seen stops the flutes short of the bridges and therefore it serves no purpose but cosmetic and a very minor reduction in action weight. The flutes on the G30 run under the bridges. The flutes are also not cut with a ball nosed endmill but rather with a milling cutter that produces steeper side walls in the flutes and more efficient flute geometry for breaking ice under the bridges.

5. The G30 has an enclosed cocking piece and it will help prevent gas from reaching the shooter in the event of a catastrophic case failure. I had a major case blow up in my G30 264 Win Mag (The one you shot) from a major screw up (bore obstruction) and no gas made it to my face.

6. The best designed primary extraction cam I have seen.

7. The firing pin/cocking piece can quickly be removed from the bolt in the field without tools.

8. Being a push feed action allows the G30 to have the spring-loaded plunger ejector that ejects the case sooner in the cycle than a blade style ejector. The problem with a spring loaded plunger is, very rarely, it can stick under harsh conditions or more commonly if you are running high pressure loads and shaved brass accumulates in the plunger bore. As a back up the G30 also has a blade style ejector that will kick the case out at the end of the stroke if the plunger ever fails.

9. The claw extractor is an improved Sako style.

All this extra costs extra and the G30 is pretty pricey but when you consider the cost of the G30 vs other custom actions you are at least getting something other than a warmed over 700 with a shiny polish on it. (Said in jest and not meaning any disrespect for any one elses favorite action) laugh laugh

On the 20 MOA bases I saw a Weaver 20 MOA rail the other day in a gun store for 30 bucks for the Rem 700. It was aluminum so it will be pretty light weight for a 1 pc rail.

For me I like the Rem 700 for the economics and solid functionality but if I want a better action I need to actually get more than a tighter fitting bolt, smaller loading port and shiny finish. The G30 is darn sure better. At least in my opinion. grin
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#6179828 - 02/15/12 03:28 PM Re: Which Action? [Re: JohnBurns]
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Registered: 03/10/02
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John what does the G30 run for bolt to raceway clearances?
And is the bolt and handle 1pc?


Edited by Ackleyfan (02/15/12 03:31 PM)

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#6179980 - 02/15/12 04:07 PM Re: Which Action? [Re: joelkdouglas]
Reloder28 Offline
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Registered: 03/09/06
Posts: 8646
Loc: Deer Park, Tx
Originally Posted By: joelkdouglas
Of those two to select from (Rem or Sako), I would choose the 700.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26367/Product/SHORT-ACTION-RECEIVER-BOLT

Another option, if you are blessed with bountiful resources.



Maybe not this particular action but I would definitely go with one of the Rem 700 clones of quality. It's just too easy to pass on, like Mr. Burns suggested.
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