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Here's what the hits on the 945 yard plate looked like...
Sorry about the quality. Had the exposure set wrong and had to brighten it on the computer.

You can see the bullet splashes off of the plate in the dirt below the plate. Three quick hits...



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How big is it?


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I am going to own one of those one of these days.

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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
How big is it?


About 2 MOA. 18"X16" and it's waaaay tooo thick! We couldn't drive to the locations of the 945 and 1240 plates and had to hand carry them and their stands about 800 yards. We brought a Jeep the next day to drive up to them to pack up. Good workout carrying 50# steel. Had to stop for rests about every 300 yards.

It was all worth it as the fun outweighed the steel smile


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Have you tried 130gr VLD's in your 6.5 Creed?


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No. Been shooting the 139 Scenar and the 140 A-Max.


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Went out early this morning with a friend to really nail down a good long range load with the least vertical dispersion. I had shot the 41.8 grain H-4350 load with the 139 grain Scenar at 600 and was pretty happy, but wanted to see how it performed at 1000.

I charged 100 cases from 41.7 to 43.5 grains, 10 of each in .2 grain increments. No bullets were seated until ready to shoot at the range. I always take my press and do it this way.

Here's how it went. My buddy is in the pits with a radio. I seat 2 bullets in two cases at the starting charge and shoot them. If they group with no vertical, I seat 3 more and shoot them for results. If the first two have a bunch of vertical, I skip that load and move on. This is great because you don't end up having to pull bullets and dump powder back at home. I only shot 26 rounds to achieve a good load with the least vertical dispersion... smile


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Four to the right of my hand and one above and left. About 4 inches of vertical. Nice group too. Shot in 8-10 mph crosswind from 3:00

42.5 grains H-4350
139 grain Lapua Scenar
Federal 210M primer
.015" off of the lands; 2.830" COAL

Velocity will be determined later.




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Went out today to nail down some drop data with the above load. Decided to stuff some 140 A-Max's in 10 cases with the same 42.5 grain charge to see how they would shoot at 600...


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Wow...that looks like fun! Good report.I hate to say it but my 6.5CM will only get to work out to 300 yards at my range.


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Hey rc

Did you ever try any load development with the 130 gr Scirrocco II (a hunting bullet whistle ) ?

Great shooting but somehow getting a great load with a "splatter" bullet just doesn't mean as much (to me). Then again at extended ranges the splatter bullet might have better terminal performance than a bonded bullet. Whatcha think?


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One of the advantages of the "ignore" feature is that if you open a thread and find half the posts labeled *you are ignoring this dipschidt*, then there's obviously no sensible posts to be found. You can skip the macho pissing matches and go on to useful threads.

I just put one more Campfire member on ignore as a result of this thread, and may add one or two.


That about sums it up JB. I have had 3 dumbasses on ignore for YEARS now. Great feature.

Back to our regularly scheduled program: The Creedmoor will get you out to 1K handily. However, I agree with whomever it was that said it won't do a thing the 260 Rem won't do, unless in an AR platform. For a bolt gun, I'll take a 260 Rem over a Creedmore or a 6.5x47 Lapua (and did). The other 2 cartridges simply do nothing better than the 260 IMO......

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No,folks will just fight it out until they are too tired or forgot what it was all about.....


LOL. That is pretty much what separates the 'Fire from "lesser" forums. Freedom of speech. I mean where else can you obtain free plane tickets for an ass beating? Say the right words and you can pretty much obtain a free ass beating in the location of your choice any where in the continental U.S., Alaska, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, and possibly even the Virgin Islands. What other sites offer it's members such perks?

Keep in mind: If you don't like it, you don't have to read it. Although some choose to read it, and then bitch about it......

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Originally Posted by woods
Hey rc

Did you ever try any load development with the 130 gr Scirrocco II (a hunting bullet whistle ) ?

Great shooting but somehow getting a great load with a "splatter" bullet just doesn't mean as much (to me). Then again at extended ranges the splatter bullet might have better terminal performance than a bonded bullet. Whatcha think?


Not yet woods! I think with the velocities we're talking about (2800 or so) the "splatter" bullets just may be the ticket to expansion at long range. I'll be doing development on a super lightweight Creedmoor for a hunting gun soon. Probably just use the "target" bullets. My competitive friends shoot the target bullets all of the time for game and have reported great results.

Now for elk, I doubt it! Probably won't use the Creedmoor either!


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Per WVZ and the 600 yd elk, I believe that was an SST, not the 120/123 or 140 amax fwiw.

The 6.5C will get the job done just as well as a 260 more or less. Lapua brass in 260.

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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
Have you tried 130gr VLD's in your 6.5 Creed?


Pat,

This weekend, I just finished confirming my load for the 24 hr Sniper Challenge happening the end of July with shots out to 1200.

6.5x47 Lapua
130 VLD seated .015" in to lands.
38.6 gr Varget
CCI BR
24.5" #3 1:8 Broughton

My final zero.

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Some 1008 yd hits on my 15" x 27" LV Steel 1/2 Silhouette. Made a sight adjustment to the right after smacking with the very left hit. The lower 3 are 123 MK's with 38.4 gr Varget. The two on the right are from my partner's 6.5x47.

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Looks like the 130's are shooting great Alan! Good luck at the event.


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The Latest 6.5 Creedmoor Update...

After trying a few that I wasn't happy with, I've finally settled on a load.

I did the testing at 550 yards simply shooting at a big square steel plate painted black. I shot the plate and was really interested in finding a load with as little vertical dispersion as possible. A 41.1 grain H-4350 with a 140 A-Max gave about 2" of vertical at 550 yards for 10 shots.

I thought for sure that was the load and promply loaded 300. Went out and shot them at 100 yards. I would have bet the farm that they would have gone into one hole by the way they were performing at long range. Wrongo.

At 100 yards the groups were terrible; about an inch. Impacts were unpredictable as to up, down, or sideways. I was pretty depressed. I went back over to the long range and shot them at 550, 650, 710, 760 yards and was amazed at how beautifully they shot. No vertical and easy to make hits. Perplexed....

I was hoping I wouldn't have to use two loads; one for 100 yard accuracy on paper and one for long range. I tried to do another little ladder and found that 41.9 and 42.2 shot Ok at 100. Went to the long range and they had vertical stringing.

Charged a bunch of cases this A.M. with 41.1 and 42.2 and went to the range to try to tune one of them for an all around load. On a hunch, I seated two of the No Vertical 41.1 loads .020" longer than the previous test loads. They went into one hole. I then seated 3 more and crossed my fingers...

They did this:

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I then seated the rest of the cases with bullets at that OAL and went to the long range to test them on steel. I was hoping that changing things wouldn't effect the load too much vertically. It shot well...

5 shots at 550:

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140 grain A-Max
41.1 grains H-4350
Fed 210M primer
Hornady case
COAL = 2.834"
2810 fps



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It is amazing how such a small increment can change things down range. Are you still off the lands or are you in now?

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Funny you should ask.

I had no idea where it was, it was about max magazine length. When I got home I did a little cleaning rod measurement and found it to be .100" off!


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.100"? That's out there! But dooable. One of my loads, 123 MK, likes 10 out as much as it likes 15 in; go figure!

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