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#6198568 - 02/20/12 12:42 PM Re: Elk and the .223.Why not? [Re: logcutter]
Mauser_Hunter Offline
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Maybe some of us who think the .223 is lousy for elk. Think the same thing about the .243.
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#6198581 - 02/20/12 12:46 PM Re: Elk and the .223.Why not? [Re: Mauser_Hunter]
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The absolute smallest rifle I would shoot for a elk is a 25-06/257 wby. That is becaue I have seen first hand the 100 TTSX on a elk. It would not be my first choice (first would be my 300wsm).

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#6198635 - 02/20/12 01:00 PM Re: Elk and the .223.Why not? [Re: logcutter]
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Loc: Tennessee
REFERENCE
reference
1. CEN TERFIRE RIFLES
a. Must be minimum of .24 caliber (6 mm).
b. Must have a minimum 16-inch barrel and be at least 26 inches long.
c. If semiautomatic, they can hold a maximum of six rounds in the magazine
and chamber combined.
d. Must use expanding bullets that weigh minimum 70 grains for deer,
pronghorn and bear, 85 grains for elk and moose, and have an impact
energy (at 100 yards) of 1,000-ft. pounds as rated by manufacturer.
e. It is illegal to hunt game birds, small-game mammals or furbearers with a
centerfire rifle larger than .23 caliber during regular rifle deer and elk seasons
west of I-25, without an unfilled deer or elk license for the season. A
small-game, furbearer or unfilled big-game license is required.
2. FULLY AU TOMATIC

Here's one reason.This is from the Colorado Reg.

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#6198657 - 02/20/12 01:06 PM Re: Elk and the .223.Why not? [Re: 1tnhunter]
logcutter Offline
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I am always interested in other States regs.Thanks,Gravestone,I didn't know that about Colorado...

Not the case in Idaho though, nor am I pushing the .223 for Elk...

Jayco

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#6198696 - 02/20/12 01:20 PM Re: Elk and the .223.Why not? [Re: logcutter]
1tnhunter Offline
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Your welcome. Not sure but i believe most elk inhabited states have a 243 min. requirement. I guess that's way the question of Elk with a 243 is asked on the forums.

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#6198716 - 02/20/12 01:25 PM Re: Elk and the .223.Why not? [Re: 1tnhunter]
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The short bus must be closed today being it is Presidents Day?
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#6198746 - 02/20/12 01:33 PM Re: Elk and the .223.Why not? [Re: tipmover]
Tom338 Offline
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Loc: Minnesota
Why is it people want to shoot big game with a 223. And the people who have them all want a fast twist barrel so they can shoot 60-70 grain bullets. If you want to play with the big boys grow some stones and get a bigger gun. Would you use a tack hammer to pound in a pole barn spike...The same applies with your firearms. Use the right tool for the job.

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#6198754 - 02/20/12 01:35 PM Re: Elk and the .223.Why not? [Re: 1tnhunter]
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Idaho's says on page 67 of the hunting regs:

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov
Big Game Rules
67
Weapon Restrictions
Rifle and Shotgun
In any hunt, including any-weapon seasons, it is unlawful to
pursue or kill big game animals:
By any means other than approved firearms,
muzzleloaders and archery methods.
With any electronic device attached to, or incorporated
on, the firearm or scope; Except scopes containing
battery powered or tritium lighted reticles are allowed.
With any firearm that, in combination with a scope, sling
and/or any attachments, weighs more than 16 pounds.
With any fully automatic firearm.
With any shotgun using shot smaller than #00 buck.
With any rimfire rifle, rimfire handgun, or muzzleloading
handgun, except for mountain lions.



Jayco

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#6198849 - 02/20/12 02:04 PM Re: Elk and the .223.Why not? [Re: logcutter]
Mauser_Hunter Offline
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Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: logcutter
Idaho's says on page 67 of the hunting regs:

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov
Big Game Rules
67
Weapon Restrictions
Rifle and Shotgun
In any hunt, including any-weapon seasons, it is unlawful to
pursue or kill big game animals:
By any means other than approved firearms,
muzzleloaders and archery methods.
With any electronic device attached to, or incorporated
on, the firearm or scope; Except scopes containing
battery powered or tritium lighted reticles are allowed.
With any firearm that, in combination with a scope, sling
and/or any attachments, weighs more than 16 pounds.
With any fully automatic firearm.
With any shotgun using shot smaller than #00 buck.
With any rimfire rifle, rimfire handgun, or muzzleloading
handgun, except for mountain lions.



Jayco


Must be more than that? What's an approved rifle?

You can't even use a .223 on deer here. Let alone elk.


Edited by Mauser_Hunter (02/20/12 02:04 PM)
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#6198978 - 02/20/12 02:38 PM Re: Elk and the .223.Why not? [Re: Mauser_Hunter]
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You could legally shoot an elk (or moose) in ID and/or MT with a .17 Hornet. I wouldn't try it, though I solidly believe 22 centerfires are fine for deer. Elk, I'd be on the fence till I saw it happen a few times.

I am pretty sure Scenar killed a big bull with a 220 Swift, but believe it was a target of opportunity for him while predator hunting, not elk hunting.
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