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#6228697 - 02/28/12 Price check on No1 Hornet
KineticPerformance Offline
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Is an NIB Ruger No1 in .22Hornet for $699 a good deal?

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#6228705 - 02/28/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: KineticPerformance]
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#6228713 - 02/28/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: digger44]
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+2, grab it shocked

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#6229582 - 02/28/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: gunner500]
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Fantastic price, get it!
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#6230473 - 02/28/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: Son_of_the_Gael]
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Great deal if its a 1B. If it is a 1A you might be onto the 'Steal of the Decade". #3s are also pretty nice.

1B

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#6230612 - 02/28/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: 1B]
Ron_T Offline
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Good buy if the rifle's condition is actually "NIB"... and if you can accept the range limitations of a .22 Hornet which is a 150 yard cartridge.


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#6230660 - 02/28/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: KineticPerformance]
redz06 Offline
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I do not think so. The typical No.1 does not sell well to the masses. I think if you gave 700, you might want to keep it a while before thinking of reselling, just my opinion. If it is going to be a keeper, then who knows but you. Gun sales can act funny, sometimes the lack of availablity influences numbers; sometimes not.

Take a look at the gun e-sites to see supposed selling prices, note that all that sell are not all completed sales. Sales numbers, values vary greatly by area. In my area, if one took that to a local shop or show, the offers would be around 1/2 to 2/3 of your number depending on cash/tradein. Just what I have experienced, so I keep them for donors.

That past four that I have purchased, none were over 500, all hornets for what that is worth. Perhaps the values are better where you are at.

It would be difficult to see much more than 500.

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#6231948 - 02/28/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: redz06]
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redz06,

The last four #1 Hornets you bought NIB cost you under $500? Do you live in the slums of Albania? Or did you buy them in 1980?

I cannot any longer find used and abused donor #1s for projects for that price, much less NIB models.

Also, the price offered by local shop owners is not what they charge when they resell them. The latter is the fair comparison point for this guy's query.

Its clear you have no use for the Hornet as is. You may be missing something. It makes a fine walking sroud short to mid renage varmint/plinking round and in a Ruger #1 gives me lots of muscle memory honing practice at a very low cost. And, Mule Deer counted his 1B Hornet among his ten favorite rifles a few years ago.

1B

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#6232077 - 02/28/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: 1B]
redz06 Offline
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1B,

I only have purchased 5 No.1 hornets in factory condition(recounted today). Three of them were purchased post 2000 new/preowned for 500 or less, the last two were purchased preowned last year, one for 450 and the other for 500 if that matters to you. Nice wood/metal, not beaters by any means.

I am not sure why you would have a comment about where anyone lives, some might take it the wrong way. It really is meaningless to most.

I have an appreciation for the Hornet, but with a custom barrel, mostly in the 17 and 22K varieties. I have not tried the Lil Gun powder yet in a standard hornet, but the net says it gives pretty good speed.

I agree trade in value is not much on a No.1, at least in some localities. To sell one is a little different on occasion, but you have to find the right new guy. I have read on other forums about buying no.1's. It seems to vary with region or occasion with some forums/posters.

I have no idea about whether the original poster or others like the No.1 hornet or not, he asked about pricing, and I tried to respond. I would be hesitant to give 500+ unless I did some research on sales in my area or just wanted the rifle which might be the case irregardless of price.


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#6232640 - 02/28/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: redz06]
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I saw a real nice one last week at a gunshow in Harrisonburg Va. Asking price was $750. Needless to say it never moved off the table.

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#6233388 - 02/29/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: vaturkey]
KineticPerformance Offline
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I felt it was too high. What do we think we would offer if someone offered to sell this gun at $699 from $850? He only came off of $850 because I told him I'd seen that gun on his shelf since at least 2007.

I'm spoiled from having worked at a gunstore prior to joining the Army so I haven't paid much over dealer cost in a long time.

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#6233636 - 02/29/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: KineticPerformance]
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redz06,

The Albania comment was out of line. I apologize.

1B

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#6233678 - 02/29/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: 1B]
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1B,

no problem on my end.

Redz06


Edited by redz06 (02/29/12)

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#6234282 - 02/29/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: redz06]
Ron_T Offline
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1B...

After reading your posts for the past several years, I think most of us realized that you are a considerate gentleman and knew you were making a joke. smile


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#6235255 - 02/29/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: Ron_T]
redz06 Offline
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It was a difficult joke for me really; but time goes on.

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#6253691 - 03/05/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: redz06]
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Yes, I can see it was "difficult" for you... and my post was as much to help you realize 1B was joking as to tell 1B most of us knew he was joking.

The vast majority of posters in the Forum are good and decent gentlemen... and 1B is most certainly one of 'em... as are you, I'm sure. smile

My post was more to ease tensions than anything else... and, hopefully, that has been accomplished. Now we can move on...


Strength & Honor...

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#6254563 - 03/05/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: Ron_T]
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Ron T.

You know, it has been good to get help and give help here on this forum. That said, you and 1B have shown me the other side of things, that really, all in all, that new members are not really welcome. You show that in your use of "" and obiviously taking sides in a matter that did not really concern you.

I wish you both well in your endeavors, there won't be anymore "tensions" for you to be concerned with, hopefully that will satisfy you both.

Redz06

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#6255271 - 03/05/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: redz06]
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Hornets are useful.

RonT, I like your tag line. After a long career in enforcement, I made the mistake of answering the phone one morning. I ended up going to work for a large trucking company that was in need of help in complying with all the DOT rules and regulations. After I had been there a while, my vice president stopped by one day for a discussion on management and administration. After my input, he commented that I knew lots of stuff. My reply was that I did know lots of stuff and that some of it was even useful. jack
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#6289243 - 03/14/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: jt402]
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402... thanx for your comments. When I frequented chat rooms 10-15 years ago on the internet and when questioned or challenged about something I'd said or commented on... I use to say, "I know a lot about a little and a little about a lot, but only a fool thinks he gets smarter and smarter until he knows EVERYTHING about NOTHING!". That statement usually broke the tension and everyone got a giggle outta it... and moved on in peace.

"Life" is too short to live in anger... and it's best to really try to just "get along". grin

In this Forum, I am truly sorry that Redz06 felt I unfairly "defended" 1B when my only purpose in posting was to hopefully replace what I sensed was obvious anger with a more calm and positive outlook and understanding.

In my mind, I wasn't particularly favoring 1B, but I honestly did feel that he was joking and that while his words might possibly upset someone, he was merely making a joke and was gentleman enough to apologize once he realized he had offended someone.

Unfortunately this didn't seem to be enough for Redz06. Had he checked my posts through the almost 9 years I've frequented the various forums on the "Fire", he would have noted that I've never made nasty or unfriendly comments to anyone as a matter of habit regardless of what they've said or how they've said it to or about me.

I.E., I've always tried to be a "peace-maker"... which tends to be my nature in real life as well. It is unfortunate that some folks just have to be critical and look for problems... whether those problems actually exist or not. smile


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#6289547 - 03/14/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: Ron_T]
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redz06,

You should know that the remark in question was not made to you as a relative new comer here. I had no idea at the time how many posts you had made then, and I care nothing about it now. Waving that bloody shirt is unjustified. Now if you had warned us all that you bruise easily and tend to withdraw when challenged, I might have dialed down the rhetoric.

The issue was your assertion on costs of used #1s that was way out of line with everything I have seen at multiple gunshops, gun shows in VA and 3 adjoining states, and the internet. For the record, I continue to doubt that the prices you quoted are the norm anywhere -- except for what a gun shop or pawn store might offer you for a used #1 rifle before adding their substanital profit to their price tag. Of course, there are clueless, inept, private sellers out there but they are not trend setters. And those deals represent a highly random, bottom end, of a price range that goes quite a bit higher. Any aware seller -- private or dealer -- could advertise such #1s on the inet for at least $100 to $150 more, or sell or trade them at gunshows for equivelant value. Why would they take such a skinning?

Anyway,...now I am on the verge of apologizing to the Albanians .

1B









Edited by 1B (03/14/12)

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#6289841 - 03/14/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: 1B]
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Loc: central New York
Not to get in the middle of this tift, but redz06 is obviously the same fellow who goes by roofinspector over on the RugerForum.

He is always stating how cheaply he gets his No. 1's, but will never say what part of the country he lives in to obtain these deals. Everyone responds to his assertions that Ruger No. 1's cannot be obtained for those prices anywhere else on earth in 2012, then he tends to get defensive.
Not sure what his game is, if any, but just thought I'd offer this as an "explanation" of where he's coming from (though as I said, he won't divulge WHERE that is ;-)

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#6289912 - 03/14/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: gewehrfreund]
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Bingo! I never connected the dots.

1B

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#6290380 - 03/14/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: 1B]
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I can't speak for redz06, but I do think good deals can be had if you're willing to do a little shopping. I bought -- off AR15.com's board in 2007 -- a 1A in 7x57 with original box, Leupold Vari-XIIc 1x4, about 200 rounds of brass, sling, and Lee dies for $700 shipped, while I've seen -- even in 2007 -- people busting their asses to pay $800 for an identical rifle by itself. I've also watched people more than willing to pay upwards of $1K for 1Bs in .257 Roberts while David Spiwak -- a reputable dealer out of PA -- ran a LNIB 1B in .257 Roberts through Gunbroker multiple times two years ago at $700 before selling. I've seen local yokels asking -- and apparently getting -- $1K for common-as-dirt black pad 1Bs in .22-250 while a Lipsey's 1A in .257 Roberts with two sets of rings and Ruger-branded sling languished at $700 (I got that one).
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#6296988 - 03/16/12 Re: Price check on No1 Hornet [Re: Bricktop]
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Yeah, prices on No. 1's (or No. 3's) are all over the place. It depends on the part of the country and how much patience you have.

A good friend of mine who's a well-known custom gunsmith made part of his living while starting out by buying used No. 1's in one part of Texas and selling them at the other end. Can't remember which end was which now, but he was making at least $200 a rifle.

I bought a little-used #3 .22 Hornet with a 4-12x Redfield scope, 2 sets of dies and a bunch of brass and bullets for $500 here in Montana maybe three years ago. It was the right deal at the right time. If you really want some sort of #1 or #3, you'll usually pay a higher price.
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