24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,225
S
slammer Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,225
I have a 300 Win that is a real shooter but at 7 1/4 lbs. scoped, it isn't a lot of fun at the range. I am considering having a muzzle brake installed and was wondering if anyone has done this and then had the gun not shoot as good as it did before the brake was put on?

Thanks

BP-B2

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,102
H
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
H
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,102
The muzzle blast will impress fellow shooters, good investment.

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 14,807
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 14,807
My primary concern would be my hearing and the blast the brake would make towards others near me.

As it is I am nearly deaf. I have magnums too and I don't want a muzzle brake.

Make sure your rifle has a soft recoil pad such as the Decelerator and hold the rifle with both hands when you shoot it at the bench.

Long ago the 7mm RM was developed because a outfitter/smith found that the most gun his clients could shoot well was a 7mm Magnum.

Also consider loading the 300 down, selling it, getting a 7mm Magnum or even a 270!


All guns should be locked up when not in use!
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 36,822
D
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
D
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 36,822
I have an Ed Brown Damara in .300 Win Mag. It's a light rifle and comes with a brake. Ed states that light magnums shoot better with the brake. I've tried it with and without, the brake is better. It is noisy, but I wear hearing protection and don't shoot next to bystanders. Overall, it works well on this gun.

DF

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 8,759
C
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
C
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 8,759
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Ed states that light magnums shoot better with the brake. I've tried it with and without, the brake is better.


I'm thinking it's what people have said for years about noise, recoil, and their effects on accuracy.

It ain't the rifle itself shooting better, it's the shooter being able to do his job with the rifle, better.

Less recoil (assuming that they are wearing appropriate hearing protection for the increased blast), sure makes a guy a "better" shooter. laugh

IC B2

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 36,822
D
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
D
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 36,822
It seems, IIRC, that Ed contends the wt. on the end of a light barrel improves accuracy. I agree with what you're saying, too.

The BOSS equipped Browning and Win rifles are said to shoot better than those without the system, something about barrel vibrations and harmonics. Could be a bit of both at work, here.

DF

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,225
S
slammer Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,225
I am not looking for personal opinions on the pros and cons of muzzle brakes. The gun is a half inch gun and I don't want to mess it up. I am not recoil shy but it does pound you. It sits in a Mickey edge with a 1 inch Pachamyr. I also have 270's 7 mags, etc. etc.. All I want to know is:

Has anyone had one installed and had accuracy suffer as a result of adding a brake?

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,371
S
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
S
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,371
I think my rifles shot better afterwards. Prolly because I was such a wussy, I didn't ride them as well when they bucked hard on the bench. I've put brakes on a 300 Win 300 RUM and 338 RUM.

My biggest problem withe brakes (besides noise) is that I tend to shoot them too much. It just gets to be fun to smoke stuff at long range without the recoil. I've knocked over a few silhouettes at 500 yds with my RUM's.


Steve

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,640
jpb Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,640
Originally Posted by slammer
I am not looking for personal opinions on the pros and cons of muzzle brakes. The gun is a half inch gun and I don't want to mess it up. I am not recoil shy but it does pound you. It sits in a Mickey edge with a 1 inch Pachamyr. I also have 270's 7 mags, etc. etc.. All I want to know is:

Has anyone had one installed and had accuracy suffer as a result of adding a brake?

If I had a nice long-range rifle and it shot that well, I would change nothing!

Voice of experience talking here... Don't mess with a genuine 0.5 MOA rifle in any way. frown

John

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 29,662
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 29,662
My 30-378 Accumark has a brake that goes a long way toward taming recoil, and it's probably the most accurate rifle I own. Muzzle blast does get ones attention especially when near any structure or in dense timber.

I've not tested for accuracy without the brake.

Do warn others at neighboring benches prior to lighting one off at the range.

Blast is a non issue for the shooter when one is in an open plain setting.


1Minute
IC B3

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,225
T
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
T
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,225
If you have a "true" half-inch gun......not one that has shot an occational good group......I'd not do anything to change things. Hell, I'd be hesitant to even clean it agressively.

Those rifles are a lot more rare than you might think from reading the internet......and I mean consistant half-inch groups, not the best it's ever shot. Anything (bedding, muzzle breaks, new scope mounts, or just tightening the screws differently) can effect this "perfect" balance and should not be risked.

In general, I don't buy into the recoil objections. I do know from talking to others that I apparently don't feel the effect of recoil like some, but rifles less than the truely big boomers (.458 and above) just aren't that harsh. Doesn't mean I look forward to shooting 40 rounds from a bench with a .375 H&H, but it IS tolerable......particularly for the small amout of rounds you will fire in the field.


I hate change, it's never for the better.... Grumpy Old Men
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,363
D
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
D
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,363
It did not effect the accuracy of my .338. It was so noisy that I don't use it. I got a threaded muzzle guard for it.

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,423
L
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
L
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,423
Originally Posted by slammer
I am not looking for personal opinions on the pros and cons of muzzle brakes. The gun is a half inch gun and I don't want to mess it up. I am not recoil shy but it does pound you. It sits in a Mickey edge with a 1 inch Pachamyr. I also have 270's 7 mags, etc. etc.. All I want to know is:

Has anyone had one installed and had accuracy suffer as a result of adding a brake?


I have installed quite a few brakes and have never had anyone come back saying that their rifle shot worse. To answer your question, no.

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,845
S
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,845
Originally Posted by slammer
I am not looking for personal opinions on the pros and cons of muzzle brakes. The gun is a half inch gun and I don't want to mess it up. I am not recoil shy but it does pound you. It sits in a Mickey edge with a 1 inch Pachamyr. I also have 270's 7 mags, etc. etc.. All I want to know is:

Has anyone had one installed and had accuracy suffer as a result of adding a brake?


Yes and no..I have a buddy whose 270wsm shot 130gr. bullets before the brake great, after teh brake had to go to the 150's to get the accuracy bad. So we really didn't loose it , just ahd to modify load to make it work. I'm assuming it had something to do with the barrel harmonics of the lengthened barrel.

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 26,101
A
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
A
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 26,101
Originally Posted by hawkins
The muzzle blast will impress fellow shooters, good investment.


The muzzle blast will impress the shooters eardrums in so far, they'll probably never return to "zero"....either........


Casey


Casey

Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 26,101
A
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
A
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 26,101
Originally Posted by slammer
I have a 300 Win that is a real shooter but at 7 1/4 lbs. scoped, it isn't a lot of fun at the range. I am considering having a muzzle brake installed and was wondering if anyone has done this and then had the gun not shoot as good as it did before the brake was put on?

Thanks



Have you tried a Pachmayr Decelerator recoil pad?.......



Casey


Casey

Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 36,822
D
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
D
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 36,822
Originally Posted by slammer
I have a 300 Win that is a real shooter but at 7 1/4 lbs. scoped, it isn't a lot of fun at the range. I am considering having a muzzle brake installed and was wondering if anyone has done this and then had the gun not shoot as good as it did before the brake was put on?

Thanks


Good posts both ways, pro and con, muzzle brakes and accuracy.

IMHO, you're going to have to weigh the info, pluses and minuses, and decide what's best for your application. What ever you end up doing, there will be those who disagree. But, it's your rifle... smile

DF

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 7,125
G
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
G
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 7,125
The installation of a brake shouldn't have any detrimental effect on accuracy. The only real concern is deformation of the bore at the muzzle end by the threading operation. Though this may be a concern, I have never had it happen and I reckon I have installed three or four hundred of the darned things. GD

Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 11,891
P
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
P
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 11,891
If I had a rifle that shot that good Out the box,I would not do anything to it but shoot and be happy.
If you do go the brake direction please use ear plugs and muffs.
You will need them.

Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,187
W
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
W
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,187
I have had brakes installed on two rifles, a .340 Wby. MKV and a Model 70 SE in .458 Win. The .458 was a good shooter before the brake and remained the same after.

The .340 did not shoot well with 250 gr. Nosler Partitions before the brake, but it did well with 250 gr. Hornady Interlocks and with lighter bullets. After the brake it does well with everything, including the 250 Nosler.

There are no guarantees, but my sample of 2 says that it probably won't hurt.

Personally, however, if I had it to do again, I would have left both rifles unbraked, because the brake didn't reduce the recoil of the .458 very much (although the blast is not too bad), and although the brake dramatically reduced the recoil of the .340, the muzzle blast is nasty.


Life is like a purple antelope on a field of tuna fish...
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
YB23

Who's Online Now
690 members (10gaugemag, 10ring1, 12308300, 007FJ, 10Glocks, 06hunter59, 80 invisible), 2,766 guests, and 1,309 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,187,634
Posts18,398,904
Members73,817
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 







Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.099s Queries: 15 (0.002s) Memory: 0.8970 MB (Peak: 1.0501 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-03-28 16:57:30 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS