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#6246603 - 03/03/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: Maverick940]
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I was asking Vek, but thanks.
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#6246629 - 03/03/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: ironbender]
ribka Offline
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Hiking on steep areas , side hills with loose wet rocks, shale, steeps area of ice and snow, blowdowns. Especially with elk, deer quarters.

Hiking poles have proven to be a god send in my40's.

I like the flip locks.

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#6246945 - 03/03/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: ironbender]
Maverick940 Offline
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Originally Posted By: ironbender
I was asking Vek, but thanks.


No problem.

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#6247402 - 03/03/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: ironbender]
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For woods walking, brook crossing and some downhill when carrying a gun and maybe a backpack I pick up a stick from the ground.

Just some stick lying there is enough for me and it's easy to find and then discard.

See that skinny stick poked into the ground between the stump and the sapling! Something like that.

Easy.

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#6250021 - 03/04/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: redfoxx]
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A short alpine axe is weight in the pack for everything except negotiating a steep slope.

A long axe is a cane on the flat, an unbendable/unbreakable assist on a moraine, a step-cutter on the short ice slope when you don't want to stop and dismount to put on crampons, and an arresting tool on terrain where a fast slide/fall/tumble means debilitating injury or death. It's a compromise versus a short axe on the steep - the long axe will fatigue the uphill arm a bit, but we're not scaling K2 here. I'm not willing to carry a short axe.

Dragging my sorry behind to the airstrip with two poles broke off shorter than long axe length colored my opinion of walking aids in glacier country. The poles were great. Until they broke. Then the aluminum stubs slipped off every rock and generally sucked.

This year I carried a pole and the axe. I used both on the moraine at the same time, and just the axe on the steeps where you'd want the ability to arrest. Worked like a freaking champ.

Originally Posted By: redfoxx
The applications for trekking poles and ice axes in my opinion are quite different with the ice axe being a very specialized piece of equipment required mostly in extreme alpine/high elevation environments. An ice axe is a tool that is a bit more applicable in situations where ice, glacier crossings, extremely steep/slick rock, or self-arrest potential are likely. The trekking pole on the other hand is more of a mobility tool where steep and uneven terrain, long mileage and heavy loads are likely to be encountered. Having said that, there are some instances where an ice axe can be used instead of trekking pole(s) but those in my experience are few and far between. They are two different tools for two different jobs. Now before someone gets offend and flames me, I've used both extensively so I'm qualified to make the observations I'm making having used both over many years.

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#6250023 - 03/04/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: ironbender]
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Vek is not quite 6'3, so he's no giant.

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#6250033 - 03/04/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: Vek]
ironbender Offline
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Thanks for the response. That confirms what I was thinking. I don't know the length that was used before, but was probably 90 or 95.
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#6255647 - 03/05/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: ironbender]
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#6261208 - 03/07/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: Vek]
Talus_in_Arizona Offline
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TOM, no kidding I felt just as you do for 40 years. I'll spend the rest of my life hiking with trekking poles. They are that good. It's like taking 25% off your back and improving stability exponentially. In rough steep country they cannot be beat.
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#6266388 - 03/08/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: T_O_M]
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Originally Posted By: T_O_M
Originally Posted By: David_Walter
Originally Posted By: T_O_M
I see some of the yuppie hikers dressed in the latest hiking fashion carrying them but I don't understand the purpose, it seems to just be herd mentality.

What are they for? Is there something I've missed in 35 years of backpacking without them?


You must be a flatlander.

In the Cascades, with any pack over 20 lbs, they're a Godsend.

Flatlander .. perhaps, maybe.

Can you elaborate on "in the Cascades?" That's exactly where I've been hiking lately. Truth of the matter is, I find the Cascades to be easier than some of the coast range areas I used to hike.

My pack has been starting out at 45-50 pounds at the trailhead. Got some newer, lighter gear to try out this year. Knowing me, if I get down under about 35 I'll find something extra for ballast. smile

Tom


Have you bee up Asgard Pass near Leavenworth? Or more importantly, down? I had a heavy pack, heavier than I should have taken, and the poles were necessary for safe decent.
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#6266404 - 03/08/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: David_Walter]
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I have an use one of these when I think there may be snow in the plan: Black Diamond - Whippet Self-Arrest Ski Pole

Works for me.

Any feed back on Leki poles for treking?
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#6266468 - 03/08/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: David_Walter]
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Leki Makalu's are what we use when sheep hunting, I keep at least 1 in my pack at all times. These are solid poles and when adjusted to the proper length for me they stay locked in place.
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#6267407 - 03/08/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: AkMtnHntr]
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Registered: 07/27/11
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Loc: Montana Territory
Ok, maybe just because I am a cheap SOB, but I have never spent over $5 (usually $3) just picking up some good quality ski poles at thrift stores or yard sales. They work great and if damaged (very rare) are easily replaced. I actually leave a set in my truck and have more in the garage. Just a thought!
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#6270885 - 03/09/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: JCS271]
458 Lott Offline
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Loc: Conundrum, Alaska
I've got bum knees, trecking poles are a godsend.

Can't comment on the costco poles, but costco is great about returns when you break stuff smile

My first pair of trecking poles were a cheap pair that I bent the first time out in less than an hour. Then I got a pair of BD trecking poles and it took me several years to bend them. About 20 miles in Crow Creak I slipped on an off camber patch of mud, managed to save myself with a pole plant but bent it pretty badly. I was able to straighten it out without any cracks or stress marks, though it doesn't quite fully retract now.

I wouldn't go with carbon fiber, they are slightly lighter but they won't bend when over stressed, they'll shatter. Also using them in rocky terrain will nick them up which will lead to them failing.
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#6271022 - 03/09/12 Re: Trekking Poles [Re: 458 Lott]
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Loc: Alaska
The problem with ski poles is that they are not adjustable and being able to adjust your trekkers is a must. I encounter all kinds of different situations when I use mine, creek crossings, side hilling, climbing, walking downhill. Being able to adjust it makes it so much easier for those given situations.
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