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That's a great tip, Chris.

On a 2.5-8 it's CDS for me. M1's look goofy on those. I'm ok with being "limited" to ~600 yds on my 2.5-8 equipped rifles.

(ok, dumb question. Does the zero stop physically prevent a guy from dialing past one revolution?)


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Well thats what I did Jeff, ordered the 3.5-10 with the M1 and the 2.5-8 with the CDS and in MOA marked like chris84 showed. Thought it may fit better on the smaller scope and little Model 7. Just really don't plan on going past 600yds with it.. Plus if I don't like it for $89.99 I can change it out..


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Ok, stupid question here. On the M1 like chris posted, what do the numbers stand for?

1= 1 moa? 1/4 inch at 100, yes?
2= 2 moa? 1/4 inch at 200, yes?
and so on?

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1=1moa (~1" at 100yds, ~2" at 200yds, . . .)
2=2moa (~2" at 100yds, ~4" at 200yds, . . .)
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first the basics, 1= 1 moa and then what does each of the 3 lines between 1 and 2 equal, 1/4" as in 1/4 inch per click?

If I needed to come up 3 inches, (3 moa) I would dial to #3, yes?

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
first the basics, 1= 1 moa and then what does each of the 3 lines between 1 and 2 equal, 1/4" as in 1/4 inch per click?

If I needed to come up 3 inches, (3 moa) I would dial to #3, yes?


Your example is correct @ 100 yds.


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
first the basics, 1= 1 moa and then what does each of the 3 lines between 1 and 2 equal, 1/4" as in 1/4 inch per click?

If I needed to come up 3 inches, (3 moa) I would dial to #3, yes?


Assuming you are zero'd at 100 yards. If you needed to come up 3":
At 200 yds, come up 1.5 MOA
At 300 yds, come up 1.0
At 400 yds, come up 0.75

Get the idea?


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Or think about it like this -

Take how many inches you need to come up, and divide by the # of hundreds of yards. Remember though that MOA is not exactly 1" at 100yds, actually 1.047" if I remember right this early. So not a big deal 'til you start getting out there a bit.

Examples - need to come up 6" at 300yds, 6/3 = 2MOA up; 18" at 400yds, 18/4 = 4.5MOA up.

Make sense?

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Was thinking of replacing my scope with a VX-3 CDS, but seeing how prices went back up I might just send in the VXII (suffix V) for a turret. Has the LR duplex, which is good for some loads, but not all and want to spin it when it calls for it. Hmmmm...

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Originally Posted by NWO
Was thinking of replacing my scope with a VX-3 CDS, but seeing how prices went back up I might just send in the VXII (suffix V) for a turret. Has the LR duplex, which is good for some loads, but not all and want to spin it when it calls for it. Hmmmm...


Nothing is more flexible or forgiving than a turret having plain-Jane MOA or Mil nomenclature.


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Well contacted Leupold about a CDS, $90 to have it installed plus another $60 if I want a custom dial with my ballistic info, for $150 total. No thanks, might as well just sell this scope and buy a new VX-3 CDS and get 2 free custom dials made.

Or I can do an M1 for $60. I'm liking option #2

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I thought an M1 turret was 90 bucks?

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On their website, under custom shop, it shows CDS being $90 and M1 being $60.

How high is the M1? One inch? More, less?

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If you have a scope that doesn't already have a turret, Leupold will charge you like 90 bones for an M1... the custom shop is a different deal I think.

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M1 would be my first choice, anyways.

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M1 is $90. Just sent two scopes in to have them put on and that's what they charged me. Well, $89.95 or $89.99 actually...


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Yep M1's and CDS are both $89.99 each and a reticle is $59.99..


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Are there any lightweight options for a Kimber 84L for a 20moa base to be able to spin the elevation turret a little more? I've only seen the one-piece picatinny style.


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Burris Sig rings with offset inserts, maybe?

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